Help with "New" Rodinal

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  1. smo2

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    I just bought some Rodinal at Freestyle and when it came it was just a bottle with no real info. Does anyone have a "fact Sheet" from Agfa (assuming it really is the same).

    For those that have tried this version is it really the same - is it worth all the hype I have heard??? Any suggestions/Tips/Tricks/Caveats?

    I am really excited to see what everyone has been raving about.

    Thanks,

    Steve
     
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    I just got two bottles from freestyle today as well. Mine came with a few pages of info including processing times that don't match my previous Rodinal times. They are generally shorter than what I had before from about 2 years ago. I was glad to see the rodinal is a nice light amber color rather than the black coffee color of the R09.
    Dennis
    I could look at the sheets of info if there is something you especially want to know.
     
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    New Rodinal

    I have been using Freestyle supplied Rodinal for quite a while, maybe a year?, and find tri x times about 6 minutes, HP5 about 8.5 minutes using it a 1/25.

    That gives pretty punchy negatives, which is my style. I think the 1/50, which I have not tried, would give longer scale and probably better for some images.
     
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    How about mixing? I have only used XTOL which gives VERY detailed instructions on mixing. How do I prepare for use? Is it simply adding 1 part Rodinal and 50 parts water, mixing then adding to the tank? Do I just mix right before use?

    What about stand developing?
     
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    Yes, one part Rodinal and 50 parts water.
    For a 16 ounce stainless steel tank, use 10ml Rodinal and water to make 16 ounces developer.
    For 1:25 dilution add 20 ml Rodinal and water to make 16 ounces.
     
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    Yes, mix what you need right before using it.
     
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    I didn't notice any difference when they re-introduced Rodinal. I ran out last week and had to use some R09 that was supposed to expire in June 2006 and that worked fine too :smile: I seem to remember that the timings published by Agfa were always a little bit dodgy...
     
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    More generally, for times check the Massive Dev Chart.

    If you're really desperate for "official" documentation, I've got a ~3-year-old bottle of Rodinal in my darkroom, complete with its original instruction sheet. I could scan that for you; however, between the Massive Dev Chart and the advice that's already been posted here, I doubt if there's anything of much importance in that original Agfa documentation.
     
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    Time kind of flies by for me. It is possible that I tacked the Rodinal times up on my wall as much as 5 years ago and I didn't put a date on it but the times on the instructions I recieved a couple days ago show some differences from the earlier instructions. If it was important to anyone I could post the differences but I doubt it is.
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    Here are my times for Rodinal at 1+50 dilution for select films.

    APX 100.........10:00
    APX 400.........13:00
    Efke 25...........08:00
    PanF+ 50........10:30
    T-Max 100......12:00
    T-Max 400......11:30
    Tri-X 400........13:00

    Agitation is continuous for the first 30 seconds and for 10 seconds each subsequent minute.
     
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    Thanks for the info - are there films that are "good" or "bad" with Rodinal? What are everyone's favorites?
     
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    APX 100 and Rodinal 1+50 have given me some excellent results. The caveat is that APX is getting harder to find. Rodinal has a knack for bringing out tones in film, at a cost of increased perceived grain.
     
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    I do have some APX that I shot a while ago.

    I have been shooting 400 speed films @ 250 then developing for 80% of the recommended 400 time. Is this still the way to go with Rodinal (I did this with XTOL)?

    Thanks much!
     
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    APX 400 and Rodinal 1+50 for 13 minutes have given satisfactory results. Many people feel the natural ISO of APX 400 to be less than box speed but I've found it's not necessarily the case.
     
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    APX100 and Rodinal were made for each other, and give outstanding results, very fine grain, good sharpness and excellent tonality. Probably one of the best film/developer combinations around.

    Substitute the APX with Tmax100 shot at 50EI and the results are very similar, the only downside is Tmax needs a stop more exposure.

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    You will get grain with Rodinal and faster films, does not worry me, but some people may be upset.

    The 100 ASA films are all ok though.

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    What about Tri-X and HP5+? WHat about Fuji Neopan? These films are very cheap! Will the grain be very overpowering? I like the high accutance of Rodinal will I get those results with HP5+ and Tri-X or neopan?

    Thanks again!
     
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    The grain with faster films will be slightly larger with Rodinal compared to other developers like ID-11/D76 or Xtol, an exception is Tmax400 and possibly Delta 400.

    Whether the grain is over-powering is really down to personal preference,

    Ian