holder for 120 roll and 220 roll?

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  1. Crono

    Crono Member

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    sorry to ask such a stupid question

    i am watching the Bronica cameras on the bay

    i notice that some of them come with a 220 back,
    is it ok to put 120 roll on a 220 back? :confused:

    'cos i probably will use 120 only

    thanks
     
  2. votrepear

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    You could run 120 throught a 220 back but I would advise against it. Since 220 only has a paper leader and no paper backing the 220 backs are made to have thinner material pass through, so it is a good chance that 120 film could get scratched running it through a 220 back. And it's possible it could jam up.
     
  3. Nick Zentena

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    Which Bronica? With the ETR and I guess SQ the back just holds the film insert. You can replace the 220 insert with a 120 insert. OTOH just inserts aren't much cheaper then whole 120 backs.
     
  4. jamesgignac

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    I have an SQ-Ai and until recently have only had 220 backs which I ran both 120 and 220 through without any problems at all. The only extra thing i needed to do was to note '120' on the little film info card I stuck in the back so that I would remember to wind it up after my 12th shot. But seriously, no problems with tension and no damaged to the film or (obviously) the film back.
     
  5. Crono

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    i will avoid it then
    each of them can be vary a little bit...

    thanks very much for the answers
     
  6. Crono

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    oh!

    just dont want to open a new thread...
    there are some bargain camera body on KEH without advance crank,
    if i go for them, is there any place i can get a replacement crank?

    thanks
     
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    They're hard to come by, are you looking at ETR or SQ? I don't have the original winder on my SQ-Ai and am looking to find one (they're darn near impossible to track down as they have a very specific way of connecting to the body), but the ETR cranks apparently fit the SQs so you shouldn't have too hard of a time. I've seen a few come up on the 'bay', but you might have to end up buying an old 'for repair/parts' body or just buy another body sometime down the line and sell the old one without the crank.
     
  8. r-brian

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    If you can't find a advanced crank, and they are hard to find, just buy a speed grip. The crank is removed to mount the speed grip, thus the lack of crank on some bodies. Speed grips are easy to find.
     
  9. Nick Zentena

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    I bought a whole body with WLF finder to get a crank for a ETRSI. It cost less then buying the spare part :rolleyes:

    But like mentioned you can add a grip in it's place.
     
  10. Crono

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    i am trying to get a GS-1

    the price on KEH is very attractive
    but because i am in UK...
    so i probably end up paying 1.5x of the price for the camera due to the shipping
    and the stupid VAT in UK :sad:
     
  11. Crono

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    errrrrrrr...

    is there any big different between a leaf shutter like the GS-1 and a focal plane shutter like the S2 :confused:

    i mean other than the max. speed and the max. flash sync speed...

    if i can found a bargain S2A... i may give up the GS-1, although i like 6x7 more and it also gives me more option...
    but i always believe mechanical stuff is more durable than the electronic counter part
    hmmmm... maybe it is just my religion :tongue:

    i should really open a new thread with all of these question... :rolleyes:
    sorry about that
     
  12. David A. Goldfarb

    David A. Goldfarb Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    The S2a may have a longer life span than a GS-1, but it's already considerably older than the GS-1. I have an S2a system, and I like it, but I also know that it's mechanically an unusually complicated camera, so there are lots of things to go wrong with it, so I wouldn't choose it over a GS-1 on the basis of reliability alone.
     
  13. mamiya_madman

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    Im having the same problem with me RB67. Can i put 120 in a 220 back even though you shouldnt? will it affect focusing and all the images become soft?