How B&W pictures turned into color images in the 1930's

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  1. TheToadMen

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    are you implying that's not what happened
     
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    I found this to show it to a friend earlier today. I like the way that a search finds colour and black and white versions.


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    Hah! You got me. I thought this was about the :munch:Lumiere Auto-chrome process!
     
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    Great!
     
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    I've tried to put this one over on the Grandkids, and they just will NOT bite!
    I think their parents know me, and have warned them.
    Damn kids !!
     
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    Here is my proof: this version is recorded for the first time around 1938, thus in color.

    calvin-father-on-black-and-white-pictures-COLOR.jpg
     
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    For those of you who want to educate the youngsters in the real history of photography, here is the dialogue:

    CALVIN: Dad, how come old photographs are always black and white? Didn't they have color film back then?
    CALVIN'S DAD: Sure they did. In fact, those old photographs are in color. It's just the world was black and white then.
    CALVIN: Really?
    CALVIN'S DAD: Yep. The world didn't turn color until sometime in the 1930s, and it was pretty grainy color for a while, too.
    CALVIN: That's really weird.
    CALVIN'S DAD: Well, truth is stranger than fiction.
    CALVIN: But then why are old paintings in color?! If the world was black and white, wouldn't artists have painted it that way?
    CALVIN'S DAD: Not necessarily, a lot of great artists were insane.
    CALVIN: But ... but how could they have painted in color anyway? Wouldn't their paints have been shades of gray back then?
    CALVIN'S DAD: Of course, but they turned colors like everything else in the '30s.
    CALVIN: So why didn't old black and white photos turn color too?
    CALVIN'S DAD: Because they were color pictures of black and white, remember?

    (CUT TO: EXT. Tree limb, Calvin talking with Hobbes)

    CALVIN: The world is a complicated place, Hobbes.
    HOBBES: Whenever it seems that way, I take a nap in a tree and wait for dinner.
     
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    The real question is: When did colour turn into color?!


    Steve.
     
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    That happened when there was a "u" shortage sometime around the 40's.
     
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    It was during the U-Boat plague in the early 40s, the British couldn't ship the "U"s to the U.S. That's why we've become the Benighted States of America.:wink:
     
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    Calvin on artist's statements:

    Calvin: People always make the mistake of thinking art is created for them. But really, art is a private language for sophisticates to congratulate themselves on their superiority to the rest of the world. As my artist's statement explains, my work is utterly incomprehensible and is therefore full of deep significance.
    Hobbes: You misspelled Weltanschauung.
     
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    My senior advisor at school sent this out to my fellow seniors and myself a week or two ago, made me grab my Calvin and Hobbes books off the shelf for the first time in two years or so.
     
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    I actually told my daughter this... I also told her the sun is about the size of a quarter, also from Calvin and Hobbes.

    I expect a call from the school soon. :smile:
     
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    Evolution Theory explained

    Fair warning: the older they get, the harder it is to fool them.
    My daughters are 14 and 16 and it's very difficult to come up with new things.

    But I'll keep trying ...

    For example @ explaining the evolution theory of Darwin: that animals learn new ways to survive. This is still going on and here is a recorded example taken from National Geographic: deer are still evolving by learning to climb trees for being hunted for so long.

    deeruptree.jpg

    If you think you can take it further, tell them the deer will keep evolving into killers of humans eventually, if we keep hunting them like this.
    See:

    calvin-and-hobbes-hunting-deer.jpg

    (There's that call from school again)
     
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    At 8, it's still easy. She believes my car travels through time and dimensions. Our little "adventures" will give her something to remember, at the very least. I'm definitely going to try the deer hunting one. The photo she'll believe, which is very cool.

    Sometimes, though, I wonder if I'm going too far. For instance, she believes I'm 947 years old.

    Thanks for the new ammo!
     
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    Well, technically, you're correct. I'm travelling through time as we speak (problem is, my time-machine is stuck in forward, and it only goes forward one second per second).
    I remember in primary school someone saying that their (parents') car was so powerful that it stayed still and the earth moved under its wheels. Relativistically-speaking, that's totally true, whenever I go anywhere I am in exactly the same place and the entire universe is moving around me, from my frame-of-reference...

    physics is fun.
     
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    :laugh:
    Like Calvin & Hobbes said (in the last frame in post #1):

    "CALVIN: The world is a complicated place, Hobbes.
    HOBBES: Whenever it seems that way, I take a nap in a tree and wait for dinner."


    It's just a matter of perspective, I guess:

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    Back in the early 70's, there were already some of the early wind turbines installed west of Palm Springs, in the pass where I lived at the time. I remember when I was 16 or 17, we had the Santa Ana winds ripping through the pass, and a friend's 10-year-old brother asked me where the wind came from.
    I told him,

    "You know those big fans to the east of here? Over towards Palm Springs?"

    "Yes."

    "They crank those up to create the wind."

    "But why?"

    "To blow the smog back to L.A."

    "Oh. But why?"

    "Because sometimes we just get too much here, so we blow it back. You notice how the skies are always clear when the wind's blowing like this?"

    "Yes. So why don't they do it all the time?"

    "Well, because we'd get tired of it being windy all the time. Those fans have to blow really hard to blow it all the way back to L.A. And it's very expensive."

    "Oh. How do make them turn?"

    "You remember all those wires they have going to them? That's how they power those big fans. It takes a lot of electricity to turn those fans. That's why it's so expensive."

    "Oh."


    I heard from my friend the next day that the kid explained the origin of the heavy winds to his parents at dinner that night; his mom was none too pleased with me for fooling her little boy like that, but his dad loved it.
     
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    Is you car disguised as a blue police call box?
     
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    No, but that's a thought. It's definitely cranky and has a mind of it's own sometimes, like the Old Girl...

    And the world moving under our tires and us not moving just seems too cool to pass up!

    As for the windmills, with the extreme amount of these things in our area, it wouldn't be hard to imagine them making all our wind!

    So far, no calls from the school, although it's only the first week.
     
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    Windmills and global warming ... not that's a challenge:

    - we need the windmills to cool the earth down (like giant vans)
    - the windmills try to slow down the rotation of the earth, thus reducing the heating up because of the friction with the air (that's why the space-shuttle needs heat tiles)
    - etc.