Yes, how to achieve sort of like "infrared" look without actually using infrared film? Propably and most likely the term "infrared" is not the right one here, but I was thinking this really high contrast look with glowing high tones (I don't care about shadow details with this one) ...I was thinking using red filter with some chinese Lucky film (or similiar without anti halo layer)...and propably push it couple of stops and develop with rodinal. I bet Ansel Adams would disagree on somehow here, but what do you think about this combination? I would try this one right now if I had the film...before I order it I would like to hear opinions. Thanks.