How to Scan 6X6 on a Epson 1260

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  1. andrewz

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    I'm looking for a hack so I can scan some 6x6 transparencies with an epson1260. It only allows the 35mm format. The back light is certainly large enough. Anybody have any ideas?
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    Perhaps get ahold of Vuescan, set it use the transparency bed, and do what I did, scan strip by strip as straight as you possibly can, then stitch them together in photoshop. unless your scanner is like my older Canon where the transparency is 1 frame at a time, then you gota manage 9 or more scans and stitch those. Just make sure you set completely manual scanning so no autocorrection changes the exposure from one peice to another.

    The size of the diffuser may be large enough, but it may not actually be capable of evenly lighting edge to edge. Vuescan should be able to show you tho, since it'll scan the whole area thats physically capable of scanning.
     
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    This sounds about right, although I don't get your point on stitching. (I don't think there's a need for it, as long as you're doing nothing bigger than 6x6.)

    Here's how I managed:

    1. Get Vuescan. That at least allows you to select something bigger than 35 mm and still use the light unit.

    2. Take a piece of cardboard (not too thick), use the supplied 'thingy' for scanning a single slide, and cut the cardboard in the same shape. Then, make the 5x5 area for the slide a bit bigger (6x6 should do :wink: ).

    3. The tedious part begins... Scan your negatives one by one...

    Step 3 eventually became too tedious for me, so I bought an Epson V700.

    But surely, it can be done with the 1260 Photo. The light unit is indeed big enough, I never noticed light drop-off towards the edges.
     
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    We have an Epson 2400 at work which has a light lid which is only supposed to scan 35mm max. You need to buy a replacement lid for bigger formats.

    However, With a home made card film holder, I can scan a width of about 48mm which is fine for my 6x4.5 negatives.

    The reason you dont see any light fall off at the sides is that the film holder has a notch at the top through which the scanner calibrates itself at the start of each scan so it compensates for the light fall off at the edges.


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    I say stitching as the scanner may not actually be able to capture more than the width of a 35mm strip. If it can capture an entire 6cm width, then by no means do you need to stitch.

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    Yea. He'll have to stitch, the 1260 doesnt have a transparency built into the lid, but rather something like my Canoscan 5000 LIDE scanner where its a seperate outside device that just covers the area of a single 35mm frame. So doesnt really matter if he uses veuscan or not, other than to see how much area the transparency adapter covers (like if it goes edge to edge of the 35mm area) or to manually control the exposure for each segment so they all stay matched.
     
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    Why?

    Its film, getting it into the computer, much like how you would scan a print... so I see no point to have to move it
     
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    Wow, Thanks for all the replies! I've been away for a while but now I'll check out vuescan and see what I can do.
    Thanks again
    Andy
     
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    I bet he doesn't have to stitch. I own a 1260 Photo, and with the separate device -big enough for 6x6- I don't have to do any stitching.
     
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    You say its 'big enough', but have you actually successfully scaned a 6x6?
     
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    I did, here's
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    examples

    Granted, it is not an ideal scanner for 6x6, but it can be done.
     
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    Good to know then, not many 35mm-onlys canners especially with a seperate transparency adapter can do medium format. Though the good thing bout it however is, the larger format does yeild higher resolution at the same target size.
     
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    Sadly, things don't improve much with a bigger scanner meant for 35mm and 120mm. I have an Epson 4870 Pro flatbed scanner with Silverfast software, Firewire connections and it takes forever to scan my 120 negatives. I can only scan 6x7 and 645 frames one at a time. The higher the scan resolution, the longer the wait. I can batch scan 35mm negatives and mounted slides much quicker, but scanning any of these images at a high resolution is like watching fingernails grow. I'm sure there has to be a better way.
     
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    Well Scan View doesn't work all that well. Why do scanners limit the area you can scan in transparency mode to 35mm format? I figure I just need to fine a better scanner.
    Andy
     
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    Going by the manufacturer specs does not work either. I was so frustrated with the Epson 4870 that I called them to find out why I could not batch scan 120 film shot in 645 format. They had no clue what I was talking about. If I remember correctly they blamed the problem on my camera! The plastic film holders they provide make you think that you can scan three rows of negatives at three frames per line. This would make it 9 images you could batch scan. It does not work. Forget 6x7. I wonder if these scanner companies do any research with actual photographers before releasing a scanner? Ok, no more venting for me today.