Greetings all Well I took the plunge!!. I just got my first 4X5 decided to get a new Chen-Hoa, used ones were 95% the cost of a new one. I ebayed a couple of Nikkor lenses a 90f8 and 150f5.6, also picked 14 film holders (all but one looks very usable). I also picked up all the other necessary stuff. Now I just need to shoot the damn thing I have been shooting MF for years both 645 and 67 so the LF is going to be a big, change soooooooooo many choices on what to do with the camera. Love it. For a "cheap" Chinese camera the Chen really looks good. I can see were it could be a little flexy but I'll just have to work around it. I also want to thank all you APUGers for making this happen. One of the reasons that I took the dive was reading all the information posted here and the great way in which you answered my questions, felt like a had a friend helpin me out. Thank you all.