I miss color photography. I used to do 4x5 chrome-ilfochrome printing but gave up a few years ago when prices skyrocketed with my debt and my income simultaneously plummeted. Next year should see my income stabilize or rebound ever so slightly, and I've been bitten by the bug. I was out for a drive through the dying fall colors and was overwhelmed with longing to get back into color printing. Gawd I miss it!! I'm still a long way from being able to drop hundreds of dollars on supplies like I used to, but I want to start picking away at it in small bites. Looks like I can get started for about $125 for 10 sheets of film/ 50sheets paper, and chemicals. And I may need to add a film developing tank. I should have just about everything else I need. I used to love the smell of acetic acid but can not tolerate it even in small amounts. I use citric with B&W. I have drums but want to develop RA-4 paper in trays. I've read a) that citric acid should probably not be used (PE) and b) that stop isn't absolutely necessary, and c) some people (one, anyway) have used citric acid with no problems. Acetic acid could be a deal breaker for me but most chemical smells (even Ifochrome bleam and rapid fix) don't bother me that bad. I have a good exhaust fan behind my processing sink. Anyone here get by OK without using a stop bath in trays? I was VERY encouraged that RA-4 paper is incredibly cheap by Ilfochrome standards. Great news! Color negative film isn't cheap though, bad news! Oh well not much I can do, I need to buy film, and it seems that is by far the most expensive part of this. Why no 50 sheet boxes anymore? No no, don't answer... ;-/ What system do you recommend for developing the 4x5 negs? I can't afford and don't want a Jobo or other fancy schmany system for developing color 4x5 film. I used to have a daylight tank for developing chromes (I quickly learned to leave that job for a good lab) but its long gone. I've read about the 4 taco method but I don't have a reel film tank large enough, and I'd prefer to do at least 6 sheets at a time. What is my most economical and functional option-maybe a sheet film daylight tank, and maybe a used one? I am on a VERY tight budget here. Are trays too awkward for C-41? I have an aquarium heater so I can maintain temps in trays or tanks. I may end up having a lab do the first couple dozen negs, it might actually be cheaper and less wasteful. Film choice. I've never shot negative film except as 35mm snapshots. Will Ektar 4x5s on RA-4 be just as difficult/contrasty/hypersaturated as chromes on Ilfochrome, or will I revel in wider latitudes beyond my wildest dreams? Heres what I'm thinking. A box of Ektar to start. Arista C-41 developer if I do it myself. Arista paper with Arista RA-4 developer. I'll have some leftover chemicals and paper but maybe I can splurge on a second/third box of film before they expire. Oh, and what is the capacity of the Arista RA-4 chems? They don't give capacity. I'm sure I won't exhaust them anyway but it would be nice to know for the future. Anything I forgot? I'm super excited about printing color again.