ID this notch code?

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  1. towolf

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    It kind of looks like both older Portra 400 NC but also one of the two Pro 100 Pxx films. Surely it is C-41 film though?

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    Good Afternoon, Towolf,

    I've checked through some Kodak Data books from the 1970's and 1980's; nothing I found matches. The wider notch to the left doesn't really have a Kodak "look" to it.

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    A post on photo.net stated the "wide divot" was used by Kodak for low volume or special order colour negative. Maybe Photo Engineer could clarify?
     
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    It looks like a Kodak C-41 400 speed film. Sorry I can't give you more than that. Look into the older Portra ranges.
     
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    Digging the nearest is the Vericolor C41 internegative range:

    4112 has the LHS correct but not the RHS which is the Special Order code, so perhaps a special order of the 4112 in some way?

    http://web.archive.org/web/20030208093848/http://www.srv.net/~vail/notch.htm

    Maybe the earlier SO 412 ? 412 would fit as would the SO code, that would date it pre 1978.

    http://www.carlmcmillan.com/Pdf/FilmData/Vericolor Internegative.pdf


    Just because it is rarely quoted here is an historic Ansco notch code page:
    http://www.mattosbornephotography.com/Ansco/ansco_notch_codes.pdf
     
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    It's not dissimilar to new Portra 400, which I just bought a box of.
     
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    Except the Portra has half moon cuts not the obviously hard angled notches as shown by the OP and on the Kodak Vericolor notch ID I have attached.

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    According to the latest F3 from Kodak, found at http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/support/techPubs/f3/f3.pdf , that code now indicates c-41. It is also the notch on my Ektar 100 when used alone. I would suggest looking into the old Portra ranges or if Kodak ever made Ektar 400.
     
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    I souped this today in Digibase C41. There’s absolutely nothing on it. It looks weird for C41. The backside looks black, but I cannot remove it, so not remjet? The front looks olive green and I can scrape it off. Looking through, there’s no image, and the base color is more or less dark amber as in other C41.

    And there’s a marking along the edge that is not printed, it is embossed or stamped: 711 KODAK

    Anyone have an idea what this is?
     
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    There is no orange base colour. The orange colour that you see at (most of the current) C-41 films is the colour of the unexposed but processed emulsion.

    One could call it basic hue though.
     
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