Ideal lens sets for 11x14??

Discussion in 'Ultra Large Format Cameras and Accessories' started by PHOTOTONE, Apr 15, 2007.

  1. PHOTOTONE

    PHOTOTONE Member

    Messages:
    2,411
    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2006
    Location:
    Van Buren, A
    Shooter:
    Large Format
    I was wondering what those of you that have 11x14 cameras would consider an ideal set of focal lengths and brands of lenses (among those commonly available in good used condition) to have for this format? I would prefer your choices, excluding the highest cost esoteric choices.
     
  2. jnanian

    jnanian Advertiser Advertiser

    Messages:
    19,995
    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2003
    Location:
    local
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    hi phototone

    i use a wollensak 13-20-25 triple convertible (velostigmat) on my 11x14 camera. it is in a betax shutter and purchased through igor ...

    all focal lengths cover without a problem.

    i don't take my camera out of my studio ... so i don't know if the FL i use would be suitable for you.

    good luck!
    john
     
  3. John Z.

    John Z. Member

    Messages:
    62
    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2004
    Shooter:
    ULarge Format
    My current favorites are:

    Wide angles:

    240mm Computar
    10 3/4 inch (275mm) Dagor
    300mm Wollensak wide angle, or 300mm Dagor

    These 3 lenses for wider angles are nice because they are compact and light, and at least in case of the Dagors reelatively inexpensive and available.

    For a normal lens the Nikkor 450mm lens is hard to beat, and for a 600mm lens the Fujinon C; both of these are compact and relatively lightweight too.

    For longer focal lengths there are fewer options, but there are some process lenses and Red Dot Artars.
     
  4. Ole

    Ole Moderator Staff Member Moderator

    Messages:
    9,281
    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2002
    Location:
    Bergen, Norw
    Shooter:
    Large Format
    I don't shoot 11x14", but I do (rarely) use 12x16"...

    Some of the lenses I've found usable are:

    210mm f:6.8 Angulon
    355mm f:9 G-Claron
    500mm f:6.3 Krauss/Zeiss Tessar
    and a 840mm f:7.7 Suter Aplanat...
     
  5. John Z.

    John Z. Member

    Messages:
    62
    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2004
    Shooter:
    ULarge Format
    Also some of the Protar VII cells can be used too; I have found some Zeiss, B&L, and Ross cells in 480, 590, and 690mm focal lengths that are nice, and I am just experimenting with.
    Edward Weston used a 480mm protar cell (albeit on an 8x10), and wrote a passage in one of his books where he talked about liking the image quality of the lens, 'even though some of the Tessar lenses of the day were sharper'; interesting to note that sharpness was not the ultimate factor in choosing a lens.

    One final note is that I have found a Nikkor T 800mm telephoto lens which does in fact cover 11x14, although the published specs would indicate the lens does not cover much beyond 8x10. I read one other post where another photographer agreed with the fact that 11x14 coverage is possible.
     
  6. User Removed

    User Removed Guest

    Messages:
    1,298
    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2004
    Shooter:
    Plastic Cameras
    14" Gold Dot Dagor
    450mm Nikkor-M
    24" Red Dot Artar
    30" Red Dot Artar
    35" Red Dot Artar
     
  7. JG Motamedi

    JG Motamedi Member

    Messages:
    472
    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2004
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Shooter:
    Large Format
    Here are the lenses I use most frequently on 11x14:

    Standard Lenses:
    210mm Computar
    355mm G-Claron
    450mm Nikkor-M

    Of the above lenses, I can really only recommend the Nikkor-M, which is a great lens. I don't much care for the 355mm G-Claron, although it covers with lots of movements. The Computar is a nice lens, but is too tight for 11x14. A 240 Computar would be better. It does make a nice macro.

    Portrait Lenses:
    16" f3.5 Wollensak Varium
    19" f6 Dallmeyer 5D
    22" f4 Dallmeyer 5A

    Any of these portrait lenses are great, if you can find them.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 15, 2007
  8. Donsta

    Donsta Member

    Messages:
    145
    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2004
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    I use a Cooke XVa (gives you a 311, 468 and a 646) combined with a 240mm Computar - 4 great focal lenghs on 11x14. I have also used the following: 300 Fujinon A (a bit too tight on 11x14), 305 G Claron (excellent lens with lots of coverage), 355mm G Claron (very sharp with loads of coverage), 360 Fujinon A (small and light and very sharp), 450mm Fuji C (great tiny lens with oodles of coverage), 600 Fuji c (awesome).
     
  9. sanking

    sanking Member

    Messages:
    4,813
    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2003
    Location:
    Greenville,
    Shooter:
    Large Format
    Just curious why you don't care for the 355 G-Claron? It will cover 11X14 with lots of movements and is a relatively small lens.

    Sandy
     
  10. Jeremy

    Jeremy Member

    Messages:
    2,767
    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2002
    Location:
    Denton, TX
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    I use:

    19" RR triple convertible
    19" red dot artar (about to disappear to another user, though)
    14.5" verito
    18" verito (thank you, Jason!!!)

    awaiting a dallmeyer 3a
     
  11. RobertP

    RobertP Subscriber

    Messages:
    1,130
    Joined:
    May 11, 2006
    Shooter:
    ULarge Format
    25" Dallmeyer Rapid Rectilinear... Dallmeyer 3a (although it only covers at portrait distance on 11x14)... 22" Jamin- Darlot cone centralisateur...sweet!... 17x20 Versar... 14.5" Verito ... 16.5" Dagor (older, uncoated, American model)
     
  12. JG Motamedi

    JG Motamedi Member

    Messages:
    472
    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2004
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Shooter:
    Large Format
    Sandy,

    The 355/9 G-Claron does indeed cover with more movements than I need, and is also a sharper lens than necessary for my uses. It also has good local contrast. The weak point of the G-Claron however (IMO, of course) is its bokeh, which I find very harsh, unrefined, and distracting. This would not be a problem for most ULF users, however I make the vast majority of my images open wide. Consquently bokeh becomes a fairly major consideration for me.

    jason
     
  13. Mike A

    Mike A Member

    Messages:
    324
    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2005
    Location:
    Yorkville, I
    Shooter:
    ULarge Format
    I use a Nikon 450, a 305 Computar and a 305 Claron. The Claron gets little use now that I have the computar. the only focal length I feel I need is a 600mm, I think a Fuji would do nicely.

    Mike