Ilford Film questions:

Discussion in 'B&W: Film, Paper, Chemistry' started by Changeling1, Nov 4, 2005.

  1. Changeling1

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    I tried using Ilford film (35mm) about 12 years ago. I loved the image quality but couldn't deal with the film's tendency to curl up. It was nearly impossible to make proofsheets in a reasonable period of time. After visiting Ilford's site today, I'm impressed with the commitment they seem to have made to analogue b/w photography.

    My main questions are:
    Does Ilford's 120 and 4x5 film curl up in a maddening fashion and if so is there a reasonable work-around the problem.

    I've always loved Ilford's DW FB multigrade paper. Before I buy and try the 120 and 4x5 film I would appreciate any comments that other APUGers might like to share about Ilford film-especially about the curling issue.

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  2. Lee Shively

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    I've used their 35mm and 120 films since the 1970's and don't recall having any curling problems with the film. I've never used the 4x5 films, however.

    Did you dry the film on the reels? That tends to make the dry film curly. I always dry my film by hanging it from a line and clipping it at the bottom to keep it weighed down. No curl.
     
  3. haris

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    I am using Ilford 35mm and 120 films, and never had problelms with curling. Do you properly hang film to dry? That is, do you put clip(s) with weight at bottom of film when hang it for drying, and do you leave film to hang long enough to dry? That could be your problem.
     
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    My experience is similar to Lee. I have a hot air drying cabinet into which the film(35mm) is hung vertically with clips at both ends and YES it is possible to apply the lower heat setting for a VERY SHORT TIME but I'd advise watching the film while it dries. You can see the beginnings of curl and instantly switch to air assisted drying only i.e. no heat. Once it curls with heat it can be straightened by cutting into strips and placing into neg holders and then under a heavy flat object for as long as it takes but better not to let this happen. I use 120 much less frequently but this seems less prone to curl although not immune to it.

    When on a college B&W course we use to use the drying cabinet and it was always on the high setting as we had to ensure the film was dry by the end of the evening session. If any of the students forgot about their film for even a few moments too long it would almost curl into a tube!

    Quite frankly I'd just use air assisted drying and be patient.

    Pentaxuser
     
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    I've had problems with Ilford films curling and I hung them with a weighted clip on the bottom. I would them cut them, put them in the neg pages and make a proof sheet under a sheet of glass, as I imagine you're all doing. Then that neg page went into a 3-ring notebook where the curl disappears after a short time as it's in there with all the others.
     
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    I air dry 135 and 120 FP4+ & HP5+ with weighted clips. No more curl than any other film I have used. I also air dry 4x5 of the same films with no weights. No curl.

    Cheers, Bob.
     
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    I haven't had any problems with the 4x5, I think the base is so thick that it won't curl.

    With roll film, they tend to be a little feisty, but not too bad. I hang my film to dry underneath a humidifier, and that seems to do the trick.
    I don't think they're any worse than Kodak, or Agfa. Some of the Maco, and Forte films I have heard curl horribly.

    Hope that helps,

    - Thom
     
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    I've had issues with the Delta 3200 film curling a bit. The base on that film seems slightly thicker than HP5 that I often use. The curling went away after the film had been in the binder for a few days. I do my contact sheets on a 4990 scanner (gasp!) and don't use a glass on top, so the curl was a bit annoying.
     
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    I have shot a lot of hp5+ in my life and have no recall of any Ilford film curling. 4x5 5x7 and 8x10 all no curl

    lee\c
     
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    35mm and 120 - never any curling issues here (although Delta 3200 - a little more than the slower films). I have no experience with sheet film to comment.

    However, obviously, Changeling has had the issue arise - which leads me to wonder: perhaps a humidity or temperature issue(I am really just taking shots in the dark here)? Are there factors that can influence this stemming from the environment?

    Of course, in the end - try it, its pretty inexpensive to see if it still gives you issues, right?

    Peter
     
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    Haven't noticed any serious curl in the FP4+ in 4x5. The emulsion seems slightly more prone to scratch in processing and handling compared to Kodak though.
     
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    I've used Delta 100 extensively for many years in both roll and sheet form and never had a problem with curling at all. As others have stated, the base is substantial. The only other film I use at all is Tri-X which does have a slight tendency to curl, but it's not significant, and it's not a concern. (I dry all roll film with metal clips at both ends, and sheet film with only one clip on one corner.)
     
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    I've been using Ilford film since the 60's, and can't recall any problems. But I do weight the end of 35mm and 120 films and dry at room temperature. Unweighted 5x4 hasn't presented problems.
     
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    I have used Ilford film for 30 years and have not had curling problems. I air dry with weighted clips. Tech Pan is the only film I use that curls badly. If you use a contact printer, it will hold the film flat anyway.

    David.
     
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    Thanks everyone for the suggestions. I'll be trying the 4x5 and 120 soon using the above suggestions. It does seem like Ilford's the company to support.