Ilford Pan 400

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  1. Colin Corneau

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    It's a bit early for spring, in this part of the world, but it seems I'm in love.

    I found this film last fall, at the camera mall in Beijing. In need of some faster film (35mm) I tried it out. I only wish I'd purchased more -- the images from it are absolutely fantastic.

    I know this is subjective, but the grain is absolutely beautiful and it only got more so, on the few rolls i pushed to 1600. I used both Rodinal and DD-X to process it.

    I've never seen or even heard of this film in North America, before this. Does anyone else have any experience with this film, or any information? I've always liked Ilford films but this one is quite possibly my new favorite...the look (grain, tones, contrast) are really unique.
     
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    Specifically -- how can I get this film, in North America?
     
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    Not wanting to hijack your thread too much, but what are the main differences you noticed between Pan400 and Hp5?
     
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    If you can get it closer to your home, you will save on shipping costs, but...
    Internet, global economy; you can get it in North America by ordering it from http://www.firstcall-photographic.co.uk/ (single rolls and 30m bulk). That's the one address I know of that carries PAN-100 and PAN-400.

    I really like PAN-100; haven't tried PAN-400 yet.
     
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    Freestyle sells Kentmere 100 and 400, which, since Ilford owns Kentmere, I suspect is the same as Ilford Pan 100 and 400. Worth trying a couple of rolls to see.
     
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    This isn't the first time that this suggestion has been made.

    There is a post (maybe more than one) here on APUG where Simon Galley states that they do not permit any re-labelling of any Ilford labelled products. This rule includes their subsidiary, Kentmere.

    There is at least one thread here on APUG discussing the Ilford Pan films.

    Try as I might, I cannot find either of these.

    EDIT: Ah, here is at least one of them (from a thread about the then newly introduced Kentmere films):

    http://www.apug.org/forums/viewpost.php?p=741923
     
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    Ilford Pan 400 is not the same as Kentmere 400. Both are nice traditional looking films.
     
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    Dammit...it seems the only way I can lay my hands on this is to fly back to China. Jeez.
     
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    Well, you might like the Kentmere, it has pretty nice looking (and none too fine by today's standards) grain too.
     
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    What about the eBay seller in Thailand?? It's fresh and shipping is free. The Kentmere 400 is also a nice film if you have not tried it.
     
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    I'm leery of eBay to begin with, much less dealing with an unknown vendor halfway around the world...thanks for the suggestion but this may call for friends overseas.
     
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    I like the Kentmere film too. But for the price, I'd try Freestyle's Arista Premium 400 for a great cheap film. Get it while it lasts!
     
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    Ask Simon. Well, Simon?
     
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    Ask Amplis - they are the Canadian Ilford and Kentmere distributors.
     
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    I have, I have...(also just received a bunch of the Premium 400, am I predictable, or what)
     
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    I've actually bought film from that very same Thai seller and they are quite reliable.
     
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    Good to hear, but I'm a little concerned about customs and other opportunities for people to kick me in the goolies, financially.
     
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    Try this supplier

    Hi
    just read your query. I looked on ebay and found this supplier from Thailand. Got cheap Ilford Pan 400film and cheap delivery in about 5 days.
    Seller: Member ID films-festival ( Feedback score of 8960)
    Seller information: filmfest
    Ekkawat Rojanasuwan
    402 Taksin 21
    Samrae Thonburi
    Thailand, Bangkok 10600 Thailand
    I haven't used it yet but was glad to hear I have made a good choice as I am off to New York next week with it.
     
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    I've purchased from Filmfest in the past, no problems what-so-ever. Took delivery in under five days.
     
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    I've also purchased several times from films-festival in Thailand (to the UK), with no problems....quick service (about 7-10 days in mail), fresh films, well packed and offering several kinds of film which are not easily (or not available at all) in this country. The guy seems an honest seller in my experience, I'm sure you can buy with confidence.
     
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    Bought stuff off him several times.
    Film was always in date, wrapped in black plastic then in bubble wrap, always shipped to Aus within a fortnight and usually much quicker.
    Couple of friends have bought stuff off him too and had no issues.
     
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    It's been said before but for those who don't know, Premium 400 is aka Tri-X. I have a 100' roll I'm shooting from, bought when it was cheaper (not much reason now unless, like I, you prefer shorter loads than 36 exposure, as the preloaded 36s are barely more than the 100') It definitely is Tri-X. Nothing else looks exactly like it in Diafine at the same speeds.

    The 100 was said to be Plus X. They don't list it catalog but it's in the specials section on the web site. I just ordered 10 rolls of that too. I wish I could still get it in 120.
     
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    Where is it possible to get Ilford Pan 400 in 120 size?
    Thanks in advance
     
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    The post at the top of this page tells you all you need to know. In other words try films-festival on Ebay.
    BTW, nice blog!

    EDIT: just had a look and he doesn't seem to have any. Try lomofimshop by cliffcluk on Ebay