Ilford Pan F developed in Rodinal

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  1. TPPhotog

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    Hi everyone,

    I'd be interested in your thoughts and experience of Ilford Pan F 35mm rated at ISO 50 and developed in Rodinal diluted at 1+50. Suggested ball-park times would also be appreciated at 20C.

    I am only interested in this combination of film and developer at the moment, so please don't lead this thread into an alternative films / developers debate.

    Tony
     
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    I would be interested in this also.
     
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    My fave 35mm film, I expose at 32 and dev at 10 mins 1:50 @ 20 deg.
     
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    Pan F in 1:50 Rodinal is one of my favorite combinations - and has been for many years.

    My Ilford Pan F @ ISO 50 developing time for 1:50 Rodinal is 7 minutes at 20C. Agitation: Initial 30 seconds of toroidal inversion followed by 10 seconds of toroidal inversion per minute.

    For Pan F @ ISO 50 in 1:100 Rodinal, I develop for 10.5 minutes at 20C, same agitation as above.
     
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    John and Tom,

    Thank you both for your replies and advice. Those ratings / timings should give both Neil and myself a good start so I'll get the film out of the fridge for tomorrow.

    Kind regards Tony
     
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    I have recently processed some Pan F Plus in Rodinal @ 1+100 dilution and really liked the resulting negatives. I have not had a chance to print yet though. I used 120 film with an EI of 25. 14 minutes @ 20ºC.

    Hope this helps,

    Tom Kershaw
     
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    A great combo. I usually expose at ei25 on a tripod. dilution of 1-50 for 8min @68dg using hand agitiation in a jobo drum.
     
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    I use it two ways:

    I develop the film rated at ISO 50 in Rodinal 1+50 for 10-12 minutes with 1 minute agitation at the beginning. Then 5 sec. (2-3 inversions) every 30 sec.
    Gives me wonderful tones.

    I rate it at ISO 25 and develop in Rodinal 1+100 for 13-20 minutes depending on the contrast I want. Mostly I develop it for 16 minutes.
    Gives me great control over contrast. I use this with studio shots only.

    Have a gooooood Rodinal Time.

    Greetings, Morten (Rodinalution will come!)
     
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    Many thanks guys, it's sounding like agitation is more important with this film / developer agitation than when I develop other combo's. Morten I agree "Rodinalution" is coming looking at all the threads around the place :smile:
     
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    Thanks for all this info everyone....
    I have 3 rolls of 120 Pan F at home to develop and I just purchased a new bottle of rodinal on sat. cant wait to see the results.
     
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    A huge THANK YOU to everyone who responded and added their thoughts to this one. Just developed 2 rolls of Ilford Pan F 35mm rated at ISO 50 and for the first time developed in Rodinal diluted at 1+50. Looking at the negatives on a light box and with a lube, the negatives look beautiful so I can't wait to get up to where I hire darkroom facilities to get some prints as film scanning just won't do then justice :smile:. Kind regards Tony
     
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    Hi Tony,

    I realize I'm a little late with this response. Thought I'd pitch in to recommend Ed Buffaloe's method with this combination:
    Shoot at ISO 50
    Rodinal 1:100 dilution
    12 min @ 68*F
    Agitate 10s every full minute

    Results are great! Although it already seems like you've found your recipe for success.

    - Thomas
    Saint Paul, MN
     
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    Hi Thomas

    Thank you, all contributions are very welcome and the higher dilution information especially useful. I have posted my first Ilford Pan F / Rodinal contribution in my gallery under the title Rodinal Rose. The scan doesn't really do it justice, so more exploring / experimenting is going to follow very quickly. I really love this combination and it has finally given me the look I wanted :smile:

    Kind regards Tony
     
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    _Very_ nice, Tony.
    The tones even look great in the scan. The print must be gorgeous.
     
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    Neil, Thank you for your kind words. The print has come out really rich and with a beautiful texture, in fact I think it's one of the best prints I have every managed. It's also come at just the right time as a local card company which produces B&W prints wants me to submit samples of my work, so this will be one of them.

    Kind regards Tony
     
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    Thanks Roy, maybe I should get around to playing with some of my outdated rolls soon. I'm sure my wife would appreciate the space in the fridge with summer coming lol Your times for FP4+ will also be very useful as well ;-)
     
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    Add me to the list of Pan F+ in Rodinal users. 1:50 for 9 minutes at 72F works for me.
     
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    [QUOTE=TPPhotog maybe I should get around to playing with some of my outdated rolls soon.

    There have been threads in recent months about members using Pyrocat with
    "partial stand" and "minimal" development agitation also about how long Rodinal lasts, you may have read them. I just thought that I would experiment a bit with a film and a developer that I was considering throwing away because of their age. Use a 120 film if you have one because it does not take so long to expose it. I usually find that when I am limited with film for some reason, it goes quickly and when I want to run it through quickly, I cannot find the subjects !
     
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    Bob - Welcome on-board it sounds like we will have enough for a Rodinal Forum at this rate (I jest - honest :smile:)

    Roy - Yep I know what you mean about subjects and of course here in the UK we have the added problem that the weather also changes as soon as we stock up on film. We either lose the light or the fluffy clouds all disappear from the sky all at the same time. I've recently been given a load of out of date 120 film, so now all I need is a nice cheap Russian camera to play with them. 35mm I seem to have lots of my own but strangely no Pan F+ so it looks like Jessops here I come :smile:

    Tony
     
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    I've been buying a lot of 17 meter rolls of 35mm Pan F+ on ebay lately. Average "but it now" price has been about $9.00 a roll + shipping. I have 6 in my film fridge as I type! Great stuff...
     
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    Bob, That's a really good price as 10 rolls of 36 exposure has just cost me £26.91 locally or about $49 :-( I was after more but that's all they had in stock and I've shot 4 rolls of it already today.
     
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