ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited : SELENIUM Toner

Discussion in 'Product Availability' started by Simon R Galley, Feb 14, 2006.

  1. Simon R Galley

    Simon R Galley Subscriber

    Messages:
    2,048
    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2005
    Location:
    Cheshire UK
    Shooter:
    Medium Format
    Dear Apuggers,

    I have had one or two e.mails re rumours that we are going to launch a SELENIUM Toner, well its not a rumour...we are, in addition we are also planning to launch a range of coloured toners including sepia, gold and others but that will be in 2007 :

    We are currently testing final formulations from our R&D chemists for a rapid acting product, and they all look very, very good, but we have quite a bit of testing regarding storage ( longevity and keeping properties of the solutions ) which you cannot really hurry. In addition we are testing various concentrations etc for optimising performance with our paper range, and of course it works with all other papers from other manufacturers as well.

    We would expect to launch and have in the shops in 1lt and 5lt around September 2006.

    I am very pleased to tell you that Les McLean has agreed to demonstrate our product, every day, at the Focus on Imaging show in the UK 26th February to Wednesday 1st March on the ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited Stand ( booth ).

    Simon ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited
     
  2. Ole

    Ole Moderator Staff Member Moderator

    Messages:
    9,281
    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2002
    Location:
    Bergen, Norw
    Shooter:
    Large Format
    That's great news, Simon. Thanks for letting us know!
     
  3. Simon R Galley

    Simon R Galley Subscriber

    Messages:
    2,048
    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2005
    Location:
    Cheshire UK
    Shooter:
    Medium Format
    Always happy to help people in the land of my ancestors

    Simon.
     
  4. André E.C.

    André E.C. Member

    Messages:
    1,520
    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2004
    Location:
    Finland
    Shooter:
    Medium Format
    Great news, Simon!
    Thank you for the update, still waiting for that D25:wink:!

    Cheers

    André
     
  5. arigram

    arigram Member

    Messages:
    5,474
    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2004
    Location:
    Crete, Greec
    Shooter:
    Medium Format
    That's great! Don't forget to send some down here!
     
  6. abeku

    abeku Subscriber

    Messages:
    436
    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2005
    Location:
    Sweden
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    Thanks Simon! Looking forward to have it on my shelf in the darkroom!
     
  7. FrankB

    FrankB Member

    Messages:
    2,147
    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2003
    Location:
    Northwest UK
    Shooter:
    Medium Format
    Great news, Simon! Many thanks!

    For those interested, the Focus on Imaging website is http://www.focus-on-imaging.co.uk/ (rather sad though that the central image of the triptique shows an Agfa Photo stand...! :sad: )
     
  8. photo8x10

    photo8x10 Member

    Messages:
    495
    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2003
    Location:
    Prato- Tusca
    Shooter:
    8x10 Format
    :smile: Thanks Simon, This is a good news! I hope to try this toner early.....

    Best

    Stefano
     
  9. photomc

    photomc Member

    Messages:
    3,575
    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2003
    Location:
    Texas
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    Thanks Simon, the bottle of KRST that I have been using is just about gone...so like they say timing is everything. Look forward to hearing Les's input, always worth a listen...and some pretty good stories to!
     
  10. SteveH

    SteveH Member

    Messages:
    554
    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2006
    Location:
    Wilmington,
    Shooter:
    4x5 Format
    Simon,
    I just ran out of Selenium...Have you ever thought of sending some bottles out for 'real world' testing ? :D
     
  11. eumenius

    eumenius Member

    Messages:
    768
    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2005
    Location:
    Moscow, Russ
    Shooter:
    Medium Format
    Oh, the news are really great - if ILFORD HARMAN would carry the whole line of the products needed for quality black-and-white photography, including toners, it would help greatly to many people. I am making my selenium toner now all by myself from raw selenium - who knows, if ILFORD toner would be available and the price would be attractive, maybe I would switch? :wink: Much thanks to you, Simon, and to new wise ILFORD management! :smile:

    Cheers from Moscow, Zhenya
     
  12. David A. Goldfarb

    David A. Goldfarb Moderator Staff Member Moderator

    Messages:
    18,005
    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2002
    Location:
    Honolulu, Ha
    Shooter:
    Large Format
    That's great news, Simon. I still have a pretty good supply of KRST on the shelf, but when it runs out, I'll be interested in trying out the Ilford alternative.
     
  13. MurrayMinchin

    MurrayMinchin Membership Council Council

    Messages:
    4,196
    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2005
    Location:
    North Coast,
    Shooter:
    4x5 Format
    According to my rigorous scientific testing (sniffing it) KRST must be 70 - 80% ammonium thiosulfate based on how much stronger it stinks than the 60% ammonium thiosulfate I use for making fixer. Will the Ilford product use ammonium thiosulfate to create the alkaline environment (that is why they use it, right?) the selenium needs to work in?

    Murray
     
  14. Sponsored Ad
  15. haris

    haris Guest

    Great. I just thought to ask one chemical company to mix for me Selenium toner... Now I will wait for Ilford...
     
  16. roteague

    roteague Member

    Messages:
    6,671
    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2004
    Location:
    Kaneohe, Haw
    Shooter:
    4x5 Format
    What are you tring to do Simon, with all your tempting products and offers? Lure me back to the darkside of Black and White? :tongue: Long live Velvia!!!

    It is fantastic to see what Ilford is doing these days!! Keep up the good work.
     
  17. Gibran

    Gibran Member

    Messages:
    145
    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2006
    Shooter:
    Medium Format
    This is great news. I have always preferred Ilford's chemistry in general and use Kodak's Selenium currently. Eagerly awaiting the availability of Bromophen right now.
     
  18. Lee Shively

    Lee Shively Member

    Messages:
    1,325
    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2004
    Location:
    Louisiana, U
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    I'm interested. I've used Kodak's product exclusively for many years but I have my doubts it will remain available much longer in the future.
     
  19. jon furer

    jon furer Member

    Messages:
    17
    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2005
    Location:
    NJ
    Shooter:
    35mm RF
    Simon,

    a related question. Why do the Ilford papers, in my experience, not take to toning as well (and quickly) as others such as Forte, Kentmere, etc?
     
  20. Alex Hawley

    Alex Hawley Member

    Messages:
    2,894
    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2003
    Location:
    Kansas, USA
    Shooter:
    Large Format
    Great news SImon. Now I can finally get completely away from Kodak.
     
  21. Marco S.

    Marco S. Member

    Messages:
    104
    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2005
    Location:
    Massachusett
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    This is fantastic news, absolutely wonderful. A big thank you is in order!

    Marco
     
  22. Simon R Galley

    Simon R Galley Subscriber

    Messages:
    2,048
    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2005
    Location:
    Cheshire UK
    Shooter:
    Medium Format
    Toning

    Our RC papers are 'known' for not toning as easily as some others :

    I have over the years seen various 'solutions' but they do tone, I am
    launching a range of toning products and will get the best chemistry and
    ensure the guide notes and instructions are perfect to tone our
    products and deliver the right end result.

    It is fair to say our RC products do not lith as well as some other papers .

    Simon ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology
     
  23. arigram

    arigram Member

    Messages:
    5,474
    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2004
    Location:
    Crete, Greec
    Shooter:
    Medium Format
    How about coming up with a lith paper and developer then?
     
  24. claytume

    claytume Member

    Messages:
    279
    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2004
    Location:
    Wellington,
    Shooter:
    Med. Format Pan
    Will you be bringing out a Sistan type product?


    Clayton
     
  25. Timothy

    Timothy Member

    Messages:
    199
    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2003
    Location:
    Toronto
    Shooter:
    4x5 Format
    This is great news Simon. I will look forward to using the Selenium for sure but I am also glad to see that you mention Gold Toner. I use Gold quite a lot and currently the best source is the Fotospeed Au20 which I order from Calumet. My biggest complaint with this (aside from the price) is that it only ships in one liter liquid containers.

    Tim R
     
  26. gnashings

    gnashings Inactive

    Messages:
    1,376
    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2005
    Location:
    Oshawa, Onta
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    Good news, glad to hear it!
    Finally, some of the products are trickling through to Canada - I just bought a boat load of Perceptol as soon as it poked its head up! The minute the Selenium hits the shelf, its in my cart!
    Simon, once again I have to say how impressed I am with what you are doing on behalf of your company - talk about client relations!

    Peter.