I'm an Idiot!

Discussion in 'Camera Building, Repairs & Modification' started by rmolson, May 1, 2009.

  1. rmolson

    rmolson Member

    Messages:
    306
    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2006
    Location:
    Mansfield Oh
    Shooter:
    Medium Format
    I’m an idiot!

    I just recently had a mint condition black Yashica Electro GT 35mm rangefinder overhaul cleaned and lubed. I like to use soft releases on the shutter releases. But they have a bad habit of coming unscrewed and lost. When we had a local camera store I could run down and get a new one for buck and a half. Well those days are gone forever, and so thinking I was clever I applied a tiny drop of Elmers glue to the tip of the soft release thread and screwed it into the shutter release. (You know what is coming) , Now it sticks down and will not spring back after firing. I can pull it up but it will not sporing back I have a box full of cameras I tried to “repair”in my attic, so I am not going to make that mistake, unless someone has a simple solution. Other wise it’s send it out to a camera repair man .At least I’ll be spared actually having to look the repair man in the face while explaining how dumb it is possible to get.
     
  2. richard ide

    richard ide Member

    Messages:
    1,227
    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2005
    Location:
    Wellington C
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    If you warm up the release, the glue may soften up enough to remove from the camera. The tip of a small soldering iron might work.
     
  3. mike c

    mike c Subscriber

    Messages:
    2,304
    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2009
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    I was thinking alcohol and water but that might seep in deep and cause more damage,take it back to the place that did the clr an tell them that they forgot a spot.

    mike c.
     
  4. zenrhino

    zenrhino Member

    Messages:
    697
    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2004
    Location:
    Minneapolis,
    Shooter:
    Medium Format
    I have a black GT, as well and just love it. Where did you get the CLA done, and where do you find soft releases for them?
     
  5. rmolson

    rmolson Member

    Messages:
    306
    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2006
    Location:
    Mansfield Oh
    Shooter:
    Medium Format
    I had it over hauled by Mark Hama .and I would be ashamed to return it to him for this repair
    The soft releases I got from Xun Liu /HeavyStar P.O.Box 1164 San Leandro, CA and also online fromEbay
     
  6. bdial

    bdial Subscriber

    Messages:
    5,436
    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2005
    Location:
    NE U.S.
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    I think Richard has a good idea. If you can get the release off, it might take enough glue with it to get things working again. The heat isn't likely to liquify the glue, so there is little worry of getting the glue farther into the camera.
    Once the release is off you can remove any remaining glue on it with some warm water and perhaps a tiny brush.
    For the camera, it's probably a simple repair, but you wouldn't want water in the release while it's on the camera. Taking the top plate off probably isn't difficult, but if you aren't comfortable with the screw turning, it would be best to send it in, as you've noted.
     
  7. Vaughn

    Vaughn Subscriber

    Messages:
    5,342
    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2006
    Location:
    Humboldt Co.
    Shooter:
    8x10 Format
    I am reminded of Ted Orland's "Photographic Truths" poster, which part of it reads;

    "You can use a butter knife to fix a camera that a camera store would charge $10 to repair"

    and

    "A camera store will charge $75 to repair a camera fixed with a butter knife."

    The prices are a bit dated, but you get the idea!

    Vaughn
     
  8. 2F/2F

    2F/2F Member

    Messages:
    8,003
    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2008
    Location:
    Los Angeles,
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    The camera should have been sat upside down until the glue dried.

    Unfortunately, it has probably dripped down the cable release shaft, settled on whatever is below, dried, and will need to be removed by taking the top cover off of the camera.

    I am looking at mine right now, and it does not look like a difficult job. A few small screws and the advance lever need to be removed for sure.
     
  9. Rick A

    Rick A Subscriber

    Messages:
    7,441
    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2009
    Location:
    northern Pa.
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    Heat will cause the glue to become plastic and soft but wont melt . alcohol most times wont break down the glue, however vinegar (acetic acid) does dissolve white and yellow glue. I wouldn't recommend that yhough, as then the combination of glue and acetic acid will flow into places you dont want it to go.
    Rick
     
  10. rmolson

    rmolson Member

    Messages:
    306
    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2006
    Location:
    Mansfield Oh
    Shooter:
    Medium Format
    Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth!

    This morning I was messing with the shutter release pushing it in and out, when I felt something pop. The release button sprang back to normal position and stayed there through cycle after cycle. Then I replaced the battery and ran exposure checks and everything was normal again, a miraculous healing???? But then I screwed in the soft release and the camera jammed again!!!! After much playing with the shutter release collar and it began working fine again, as long as I did not use the soft release!. I guess I can live with that!
     
  11. Christopher Walrath

    Christopher Walrath Member

    Messages:
    7,114
    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2005
    Location:
    In a darkroo
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry9000/4.6.0.167 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/102 UP.Link/6.3.0.0.0)

    If you can get it off. Dab a little diluted fixer on it.
     
  12. 2F/2F

    2F/2F Member

    Messages:
    8,003
    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2008
    Location:
    Los Angeles,
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
  13. Sirius Glass

    Sirius Glass Subscriber

    Messages:
    20,656
    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2007
    Location:
    Southern California
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    rmolson,

    The next time you want to do something like putting glue on the thread, use the appropriate Lok-Tite product, use a minimal amount and if applicable [pun intended] put the camera upside down [or in some other appropriate postion].

    I am glad the read that you are now a free man!

    Steve