is 8mm film the same thing as 16mm?

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  1. BetterSense

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    I found a guy selling recanned color reversal 16mm film for very cheap. I'm thinking that I can just spool this on 8mm spools all by myself, and then shoot it in my Eumig C3 camera.

    For processing, I could send it to Dwayne's for 8mm processing.
     
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    NO! There's about an 8mm difference:smile:
     
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    But the film is sliced in half when it's processed. I'm only wondering if the sprocket pattern is different, or something.
     
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    Double 8 has twice as many sprocket holes, so it will not work in your camera (unless you remove every other sprocket tooth, I suppose). John Schwind or someone else may be able to perforate the film for you, but I don't know for sure if he offers this service.
     
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    The film as such will be the same...

    But you need Double 8 (16mm) film, as standard 16mm is lacking perforations with regard to Standard 8mm.
     
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    There are several formats for smaller format movie film. The first was 16mm, which is 16mm wide and has perforations on both sides of the film. It was made this width deliberately because they didn't want people slicing 35mm film in half. 16mm was made only on safety base film. Later they made regular old 8mm, now called double-8. This had twice as many perforations, and was run through the camera twice, forward and backwards. It was slit after processing and spliced in the middle. The reels are normally 25 ft long (to make 50 feet of slit film) but some cameras accepted 100 foot loads. Now someone (kodak) realized that the perforations were needlessly large. By shrinking the perforation dramatically they formed Super-8, with a much larger image and room for soundtrack. Fuji released a competing system called Single-8 which is the same size film but on a different base and a cartridge allowing full reverse movement of the film. A format called double super-8 was released as well which runs the same as double 8 but has smaller perforations.
     
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    hi bettersense

    not sure if you have been here or not ...
    http://lavender.fortunecity.com/lavender/569/

    i used to get my film from prepfilm in michigan. he is a nice guy.
    i wouldn't buy the 16mm film, in the end it will cost you more to have it
    altered to what you need than it would to just buy it in the format you need it to be in.

    look into sending your film through wally's, from what i remember it is less expensive than sending
    it directly to happy d's to have it processed.

    i was just looking at some of my 8mm film a few days ago ... i had fun shooting it, but it got kind of expensive...
     
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    Not only will it have 1/2 the sprocket holes needed, if it is 'super 16' it won't have any sprocket holes on the other side.
     
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    There are 3 types of 16mm film:


    -) Standard 16mm [standard 16mm frame]

    -) 16mm, one row of perf. only [Super16 frame]

    -) Double8, like Standard 16mm but with twice the number of perf. [standard 8mm frame]


    and there was

    -) Double Super8, like Double8 but with smaller perf. [Super8 frame]
     
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    I think John Schwind still sells Double super 8.