J & C Photo brand film

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  1. Ottrdaemmerung

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    Hi, folks.
    I just bought some expired 120 film, and in the stash there's some J&C Photo branded 100 ISO film, red foil-backed paper wrapped, expired 4/06.

    Obviously J&C is no longer in business, the country of manufacture isn't stated, and the Massive Dev Chart doesn't list it. From info I found from researching, it seems this could be Fomapan. Does anyone know?

    Thanks!
     
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    It's Chinese film. I think ERA. They sold this Chinese B&W film as J&C Professional but got the size wrong when they asked ERA to cut & package 5"x4" film, and had a lot of complaints and most of it returned as it was over-size.

    I've used some 5x4 that a kind moderator threw in when I bought a lens, it was OK.

    Just treat it like FP4 for development that'll give you a good starting point.

    J&C ran into problems after attempting to pass off Calbe (Orwo) RO9 as Rodinal in packaging deliberately mimicking Agfa Rodinal, they were threatened with legal action.

    Ian
     
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    Thanks for the info, guys!
     
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    Yes, J&C film was sold both as J&C Classic, which was definitely Forte film, and then J&C 100 Professional, which was Chinese film (either Era, Shanghai, or Lucky).
     
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    I shot hundreds of sheets of J&C Pro 100 in 8x10, it was a great deal at the end when they were $1 a sheet. That film was SLOW (about 25 ISO for me) and that was in pyrocat but I thought it produced great tones. Only found one coating defect the entire time I used it.
     
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    Did anybody ever track down John Minakais?
     
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    Jim,

    Last I heard he had health issues, but that was years ago in association with the demise of J&C Photo and the custom sheet film order of TMY.

    - Thomas
     
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    The two rolls I have are of the Pro variety, so it must be Chinese. Thanks again!
     
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    I know people to whom he owes big money. In 2006 he simply dropped off the face of the earth, and that's not easy in this day and age.
     
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    Have some tape or rubber bands on hand when you unload it. The sealing strips aren't gummed.
     
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    If it has DULL black paper, it is likly Shanghai GP3. I recall some of the stuff I bought at that time has SPMC or something simalar as VERY TINY edge print.
     
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    cmacd123: I've used both Lucky and Shanghai in the past, so I know the dull black paper you speak of. I'll likely use one of these for my next B&W 120 roll. When I open it and ultimately process it, I'll post any observations here.
     
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    I just opened one of the J&C Photo rolls. The paper is rough and black, and sealed with masking tape instead of a gummed seal. It must indeed be Shanghai GP3.