Kodak Portra 160

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  1. Tim Gray

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    Not at all surprising after the introduction of Portra 400. While it will be slightly different than the previous versions, I am sure it will be a great film.
     
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    And we have Ektar 100 as a "new" film, so what really has happened at a time window of a few years, two films (NC and VC) have been transformed a bit - NC is now finer-grained with same saturation as before and became Portra 160, but VC is now replaced with the Ektar. I like Ektar and the fact that the differences in the products are more notable. One neutral -- purposely so -- and one saturated -- purposely so -- medium-speed color neg film is great IMO. I cannot ask for more considering the situation.

    Kodak seems to make sane and reasonable decisions instead of acting randomly. And they publish clearly what they do.

    The fact is that the current sales of these niche products do not allow for a large selection of almost similar products. It's better to have a clear dedication to good products than just randomly kill products without thinking about the whole portfolio.
     
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    Subjectively, I've found the colour rendition and saturation of Portra 160VC more flexible compared to Ektar 100.

    Tom
     
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    Well it sounds good. Have to try it!

    Jeff
     
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    At least they're still making film we have to be thankful for small mercies, I was in my local pro dealers shop yesterday and he only has a couple of dozen rolls of Fuji Pro film in stock, he tells me he doesn't stock Kodak films at all any more because they're too expensive, and most of his customers don't shoot film anyway. :mad:
     
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    I agree. I prefer Portra's colors (any of them) to Ektar for many subjects. On the other hand, my color goes through the scanning route, so I'm don't rely on traditional printing materials for my contrast and saturation. So I'm ok with 160NC or the new 160 (finer grain!).

    I wonder if Portra 800 will get a grain makeover too?
     
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    It may. These new films seem to be announced when the old version has only a couple months of supply left. If there is to be a new Portra 800, it may take a while if the old stock moves slowly off shelves.
     
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    Also, it's been announced that this stuff will be available in 4x5 and 8x10, and custom sizes through Canham. That's good I guess :smile:
     
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    Well, then its offiocial. NC/VC are discontinued, history etc and a new compact range are her. I have used the 400 for a while, great film. Il guess Kodak have given us a winner here.

    Much easyer to make profit with a few really good products tha a big range newcomers need months to understand.

    The drawback with starting shooting film, is all the question about what film suit the user best. Many newbees have asked me if the really need to test all the films on the market.
     
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    So we've lost 160NC and 160VC. No surprise, after what Kodak did with the 400 speed Portra films, but still a disappointment. It remains to be seen how much farther Kodak will carry the one-size-fits-all philosophy in the future.
     
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    Humm no 8X10 sheet size as far as I can tell! Didn't Kodak stop all manufacture of sheet film larger than 4X5?
     
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    First of all, there's already a thread on this in the Product Availability forum. Secondly, on Kodak's web page (the Q&A page) it states that it will be available in 35mm, 120, 220, 4x5, and 8x10. In one press release, it was also mentioned it would be available in other sizes from Canham.
     
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    British Journal of Photography:

    "The new Kodak Professional Portra 160 film will be available in 35mm, 120/220, 4x5 and 8x10 sheet format from March. It will also be sold, via Canham Cameras, in larger formats.

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    Ah, I see. Interesting that they don't mention 8x10 in the tech pub. So, maybe 8x10 (and larger) sheets are now special order only via Canham?
     
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    I actually don't see 4x5 mentioned in the tech sheet. Just 'Sheets' and that they will come in 10-sheet boxes. Presumably they are referring to both 4x5 and 8x10.

    Look on this page:

    http://www.kodak.com:80/global/en/professional/products/films/portra/160QA.jhtml?pq-path=2301065

    And for those who are unwilling to click:

     
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    I noticed the catalog number for 8x10, but not sure what it means at this time. BTW, the tech pub mentions 4x5 sheets on pages 3 and 4, in the sections for "Replenishment and Wash Rates" and "Print Grain Index". No corresponding mention of 8x10. I guess we'll see how it goes.
     
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    Two threads merged, and posted in the Product Availability area.
     
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    Kodak has not discontinued all 8x10 sheet film. They did recently stop selling 8x10 Tmax 400 as a regular stocked item, but offer it as a special order item.
     
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    Quit kvetching and just buy some!
     
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    Yes, sir! I intend to get some of the 8x10 size for a new project coming up. I thought about using the 400 speed, but that would require smaller apertures than I wanted, so now that this was announced I can just wait a few weeks and get this 160 speed instead.