large format to small format

Discussion in 'Large Format Cameras and Accessories' started by jnanian, Feb 18, 2014.

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  1. jnanian

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    i have been shooting lf for a little while now
    and i have a problem
    aside from my ground glass being broken
    ( it has the image backwards and upside down )
    i am not getting the quality of image i want.
    i like using a leica and a 50 sumawhatever
    and a pen ft and i am trying
    to get my lf images to look like these other cameras took the photos.
    i have done alot of different things to try to achieve this ..
    processed my film in a variety of developers
    xtol, dk50' dektol, ansxo 130, sprint, coffee, alone and with other additives,
    and a handful of other stuff .. like monos
    ive done deep tank/ hangers, trays, taco, stand, trays, rollers buckets too
    but they dont do it ...
    i have a darkroom and might use it if i have to
    but if i dont have to i dont mind
    my only constraints are it cant be with exotic chemicals
    just normal stuff, and it cant take too long to do ..
    i have a serious habit to feed ( film and paper )
    and i need some help.

    im working on a binocilar reflex viewer to make my prints right side up
    the problem i had before wasnt really remedied
    http://www.apug.org/forums/forum44/57838-help-needed.html

    thanks in advance
     
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    John!
     
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    You need to have a cup of coffee, John. It's not just for developer anymore, you know.
     
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    Yes, he's being a Very Naughty Boy ...
     
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    Funniest post in ages!
     
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    i did whitey !
    and after drinking the brew i realized that if i could somehow pull it off,
    make my results perfectly unlarge it would be helpful.
    luckily i didnt drink the sumatra, i might have oxidiEd
    and that would just be bad ... i have plenty of density from over agitation already :wink:
     
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    I find that if I lomograph the back of my 5x7 with my cell phone, I can invert with photoslop and then use flayers to leicafy the resulting hpargomol.
     
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    Turn your lenses around backward, John.
     
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    Go back to bed and sleep it off.
     
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    Most educational. This intriguing post has a metrical timbre that ebbs and flows like a melancholy poem from Alan Edgar Poe. What is wrong, John??
     
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    Yes! Before I did this, my Brownie Hawkeye was taking pictures that looked like they were snapped by my grandmother back in 1955. One lens flip was all it took to bring my photography to the 21st century!
     
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    I'd concentrate on that binocilar reflex viewer... or your agitation technique... or maybe you should get it right in the camera to start with... :sideways:

    Actually, you should probably just do what Whitey said.
     
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    id do that but i cant fit film in my cell.
    thats like an exotic developer i can do without ...
     
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    i did that first then I was upside down, its tough on the ceiling.
    im trupuing to get golfball sized grain, and contrast but not too much
    i want to see the whites of their eyes
    when i enlarge the 4x5 or 8x10 or bigger film / paper negatives to 3x their native zize
    and reduced down to 1/4 their native zise ..
    thanks though
    my toes hurt
     
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    i tried that but when i woke up i had an 11x 14 camera, made matters worse
     
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    its snowing rain and raining snow
    and when i go out,
    the moonlight reminds me its morning. :smile:
    thanks for your thougs G
    john
     
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    It could have been a 16"x20" instead.
     
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    Iambic pentameter, Gary?
     
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    i have the right camera.
    i was taught on theblog of blogs
    ( you know the one ) that the larger the film area the better

    the viewer is coming along, but i have to mail awy for german glass
    the local optician suggested which diopters i should use to help previsualize
    my reduction enlargement scheme
    but it takes a while to get the glass ground down to a bifocal ...

    id do what whitey said 2nite, but i cant watch reo chuckwagon videos while i agitate, and im
    cause they have a viral backbeat i use to help me keep time
    my metronome broke
     
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    I've got it!!! That sideways smiley guy I used gave me an idea...

    Turn your view camera on it's side into vertical position (don't just rotate the back, the lens has to turn sideways too) that way the image is halfway corrected. Then just stand to the opposite side and you only have to look at the groundglass with your head turned sideways and the image will be corrected. You're welcome. :sideways:
     
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    maybe thatll werk
    i already put a 400 euro down payment/ deposit down on the diopters though
    but your suggestions cant help my current problem,
    grain, and contrast with excessively large and small final images.
    i can get one but not the other ..
    im going to use spinich and turnips tonight and see what happens
     
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    I think I'll go back to sleep.
     
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    you sure gene ?
    the turnips are almost done
    i post my results later but i need to
    slurry the developer ingredients it iso and pemawash and powdered shallots
    before i can use it.
    i read that if i semi stand for ,5 hours and rotary i migh get the grain
     
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    The snow must be getting to ya. Stand strong and hopfully the garden is a good developer.
     
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