I just got done round filing two rolls of tri-x shot in my R4, mostly in program mode, every shot about two stops under exposed. the few shot in other mods that were closer weren't worth printing (although I may take another look) but the big question remains.. .... is it just me or does program mode on this thing ALWAYS under expose? It seems to latch on bright backgrounds a lot, so the front is invisible. My son has a Minolta Something that was the Minolta-version of this camera, and when I do his film I've noticed the same thing, to the point I pretty much always push his film a stop just to be safe. But why does it do this? Ideas? I did shoot a roll of snaps with color film that came out fine, but those were mostly outdoor easy lighting. I don't have the same problem in manual or spot-metering mode. Maybe I'm answering my own question here... I'm sticking to the SL2 and M4 from now on, but it's a shame to set a leica aside as not working dependably.