I had a lot of free time to browse through the internet this week-end and through reading something not related I came across some speaking of Leicas; as I have acquired about all the cameras I want,or need, or can afford, both for collecting and not losing money, and for hard use, I have been pondering whether or not, to consider, selling some I have and get a Leica R8 or R9. It was after I did a check on ebay, where else, that I saw that some R8 bodies are going for very reasonable price, five hundred or less. Does anyone know of the big difference between a R8 and a R9, as the R9s sell a fair amount higher, but doing a past check, even they on occasion go lower than expected. Now the reason to own a Leica is not for the body, but for the lenses, and that is the monkey wrench in the gears, as the Leica lenses that give them the reputation are NOT-NOT cheap.(I do not want a minolta/leica.) Zeiss which rivals Leica is now selling lenses in Nikon mount, so as illogical as this is, is the R9 really better than the R8, and is it worth by-passing, or unloading Canon's top EOS line just to get a Leica or Zeiss lens. The Canon lenses I want, are not cheap, but are still cheaper relative to a Leica (speaking zoom here, wide angle and standard size.) As much as I poo-pooed auto anything in cameras for many years, reality strikes and sometimes the auto-focus just makes life easier. (I realize the Leicas are manual and that is part of an equation.) Just a pondered question, but I am curious if any here have had the fortune to live the Leica dream.