Lens apertures on a Kodak #2 Autographic Brownie

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  1. TheFlyingCamera

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    Anyone have an idea what the aperture range on a #2 Autographic brownie would be? I'm guessing the max is at most f8, but it could be an f11.
     
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    I also have a #3 Box Brownie that shoots 124 - try finding THAT somewhere. I used it for doing wet plate demonstrations, then put it in storage for a while as I wasn't doing wet plate for a long time. Just dug it out yesterday. Remarkably capable little camera for something so simple. I suppose if you wanted to shoot film in it you could always buy 5" rolls and trim them down.

    I did some more poking around on my own after posting this - the stops listed in Camerapedia are actually US stops, not f-stops, so it's actually f11,16,22,32. I dropped a roll of PanF in and I'll burn through it at lunchtime. Should get some interesting results out of that simple meniscus lens.
     
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    yeah ... they old box cameras are a lot of fun
    i've never shot more than paper or film in mine,
    i suppose i could convert it to shoot dry plates but
    im too lazy :wink:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-number

    just after i posted the other link
    i got thinking it might be the old US system but it seemed like the values were 1 stop LOWER
    not higher ( like f8 = f4 . f11=f8 and f16=f16 ) by "the cart" ...
    glad you could make better sense of it than me :wink:

    enjoy your photo-lunch :wink:
     
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    I think with the US system there was one f-stop where the numbers were the same ( as in f8=US8) but on either side they diverged. I could be wrong on that though, and there isn't one stop they agree on.
     
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    There's a few different lenses and shutters used on the No2 Autographic brownie, normally though f7.9 US, in the UK f6.3 and these are modern f numbers.

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    Mine is marked 1,2,3,4. Shutter speeds are 1/25th, T, B, and 1/50th. Mine is the single-element meniscus, not the multi-element rapid rectilinear lens.
     
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    16 = 16
     
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    I'd guess yours is one of the earliest. I have two as far as I know they are identical (one's in Turkey) just checked and mine in the UK has an f6.4 lens but it actually says U6.4, it isn't a meniscus it must be the RR. I paid £2 ($3,10) for my second one earlier this year.

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    Shooting a #2 Cartridge Premo (meniscus lens, aperture settings of 1, 2, 3 and 4) I assume #1= f11, 2=f16, etc. I have had good luck with it using that system. On a trip to Germany back in 2004, I found that I liked the negatives made with that camera as much as I did the ones shot with a Rolleiflex.
     
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    I've contemplated taking the lens off the Brownie and front-mounting it to a Copal 0 so I could use it on a bunch of different cameras. I'd love to see it on a ground glass so I could tell what it will do before I shoot.
     
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    You should be able to tape a screen to the film plane once the camera's split for film loading

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