Lenswork Extended

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  1. Jeremy

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    www.lenswork.com

    The new Lenswork Extended is a sister publication to the paper Lenswork magazine, but instead of printed on paper it will include much more but only provided on CD.

    What's your take on this new addition to Lenswork?

    Personally, I like having the paper in my hand and not having to sit at the computer to read. The addition of movies and extra audio clips is very interesting though. Too bad you can't have the best of both where you receive the paper magazine with only the extras on CD (or maybe just the extra photos, audio, and video). I may toss some birthday (this weekend, yay!) money at the first issue, #57, but it's doubtful.
     
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    Realistically, I doubt that the demand for a pure 'extras only' CD would warrant the time and effort to produce. The print version of the journal is already in electronic form, but the 'extra' content has to be prepared. I doubt people who like the print version would swap, but there might be extra sales for the electronic version above just those wanting the additional material.

    My experience with their electronic offerings has been good - they know what they are doing. While I spend quite enough time in front of a computer as it is, I may give them a try. I expect my print library wil always exceed my electronic one, however.

    Ultimately, 'you pays your money, and you take your choice'.
     
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    I subscribe to Lenswork, the magazine, because I want the magazine. I like the printing, and its the only magazine that I routinely save. In fact, when it arrives, I immediately treat it as though it is a book, because it will eventually be filed in my bookshelf.

    I seriously doubt that I would subscribe to a CD version.
     
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    I'm not sure quite yet, I need to look over the website a little more. I like the idea, if, the materials on the CD are in a form - PDFs would be fine - that they could be copied to my hard drive, that way I could take it with me when I travel.
     
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    I like the magazine, I keep several by the bath because I never tire of looking at them. I will probably buy the CD too, there never seems to be enough artistic and informational material..Evan Clarke
     
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    I feel the EXACT same way! (It's the ONLY magazine that has found a place on my bookcase for special books... That's saying a lot about the content)

    I like the idea of extras, but I like having the book in my hand more.

    joe
     
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    I like Lenswork the magazine and will continue to subscribe to it. I have absolutely no desire to have any reading or photographic material on any device that requires viewing on a monitor.
     
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    last year I ordered the back issues on CD. While it is nice to have access to all the articles and essays, I would gladly have paid twice as much for actual back issues.

    I suppose from a cost stand point it is less expensive to produce CDs then an actual magazine or add content on more pages. Perhaps they are hoping to reach a tipping point in CD subscriptions that would begin to offset some costs of print production.
     
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    Jim, I was thinking about ordering these back issues on CD, but have balked so far. Is the quality high enough and is there anything lacking? Just wondering what you think about the CD set of back issues.
     
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    So you're reading the paperback version of APUG? (Sorry...couldn't resist.)

    I'm going to try out the Extended version of LesnWork. I figure that for $30 for the first year it's not much of a risk. I'll continue to get the printed version as well. For me, images are better captured on film than on a sensor, and are better viewed on paper than on a screen. Having said that, I think the idea of audio commentary and interviews is great, and I also think that having access to the full portfolios of the photographers is a good thing, even if I have to look at them on screen. Given the limitation in size of the magazing, this is a "Better something than nothing" proposition for me.

    (My apologies if two messages with the same basic content show up from me in this thread. I posted one last night, but it seems to have disappeared into a black hole.)
     
  11. David A. Goldfarb

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    One of the attractions of LW for me is also the quality of the printing, so I don't really have interest in the CD. I recently sold off my back issues of _View Camera_, but _LensWork_ is a keeper.
     
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    "So you're reading the paperback version of APUG? (Sorry...couldn't resist.)"

    Actually, I don't really read that much on APUG or any other website simply because I don't like reading from a monitor. I used to print what I wanted to read from websites but that proved to be impractical. Now I just kind of skim along the sites and threads that look interesting. For the same reason, I hardly ever look at anyone's galleries.

    If APUG was a tactile publication (another impracticality), I would read more of it and be more involved. I love the concept and most of the content of the site, I just can't get too interested in the presentation. Sorry.
     
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    Lens Work is the only photography magazine I buy regularly. I feel that it is pretty much the only magazine about photographs and its photographers. Every other magazine is intoxicated with commercial ads and articles and are oriented towards equipment and they lack of any kind of beauty within its pages. I believe I buy Lens Work because it is a beautiful magazine. The paper is beautiful and the printing is great, the best I have seen in any photography magazine, and the writing is most the times, thought inducing.

    Extra material on CDs seems like a great idea but I can not see myself buying it. May be I'll buy a couple of issues to see what it is about but I will be loosing the pleasure of turning real pages with my own hands. The computer screen is no contest here.

    I am curious though, to see the first one.
     
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    I, too, have mixed feelings. I buy a lot of magazines and Lenswork is always one of my favorites. This is not only because of the art inside but the magazine itself is well crafted. I know of no one who finds reading articles on the computer as aesthetically pleasing as reading a book or magazine. The same with pictures. There is one electronic magazine that I receive via download but it's a computer magazine so I consider it in a different catagory from my photo magazines. I'll subscribe to the electronic Lenswork for the first year mainly because, after shipping, the single issue sample cost is 50% of a year's subscription. I can't imagine it being as satisfying as the print edition, but I hope to be surprised.

    Cheers,

    James
     
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    Jeremy,

    I bought the back issue CD with the idea of getting the essays and interviews. Being able to print them out a few at a time to read at leisure is how I use the information. The images are very good for something on a monitor, but i suppose the quality really depends on your own monitor.

    I am glad i got it. But it would have been nicer to have been getting the hardcopy from the start.
     
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    I ordered Lenswork Extended last night. Looking through the website today I see that APUG's own Joe Lipka has a portfolio published within. That will make the issue all the more interesting.

    Cheers,

    James
     
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    Thanks for the feedback

    Thanks one and all for your thoughts on this. Believe it or not, I agree with you about the print version of LensWork. If I were to have a choice of one or the other only, I would definitely choose the print version. Nothing replaces the tactile feel and presence of the book in one's hands. No contest -- and I'm the publisher of the new CDs!
    Our rationale for the CD is simple -- some people have asked for more, I might even say pressured us for more. We are encouraged by this, but quite frankly the magazine simply cannot be larger than 96 pages with a serious price increase (which we are very reluctant to do) nor more frequent than bimonthly unless you want to visit me in the rubber room and watch me drool.
    The core idea behind the CDs was that we can offer more images from each portfolio. Once we opened that door, it was an easy leap to include audio and video to expand the content into these moving media -- especially with the advent of Acrobat 6 which allows compressed audio (MP3) and compressed video (MPEG). Since there is so much room on the CD, heck, why not just keep adding more and more content until it is filled? The EXTENDED Gallery, the extra articles, things we cannot yet perceive because we are new at this -- we certainly have more we'd like to publish than we have room for in the magazine!
    As some of you have pointed out, the "market" for the CD will very likely remain smaller than the magazine for the obvious reasons. Hence our main focus will still be the magazine. We do hope, however, that we can provide enough extra material on the CD to make it worth your time to view them and our time to make them. If not, you'll let us know, I am sure. We are hopeful that there will be value to both, even though they are different in so many ways.
    I remember when we started LensWork, we had advisor after advisor tell us we were foolish because no one would buy as magazine that was so different. We had faith that we were not the only ones who wanted a discussion about photography and the creative process and it turns out there are a whole bunch of us. Thanks! We have the same kind of blind faith in the CDs, but time will tell. Please let us know what you think and what you see we could do better to make the CDs more useful and pertinent.
    BTW, for those of you who don't like to read on-screen, again I agree. That's why the articles can be printed to your desktop printer for reading on real, old-fashioned paper. In the easy chair.
    Thanks for the nice words about the magazine. Glad you approve.
    Brooks Jensen
    Editor, LensWork Publishing
    Written Sunday, February 27, 2005 at 8:03 PM.