Liebovitz under fire

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    You know, I've been biting my tongue here on APUG about it.

    But I did write a fair amount on my blog.

    I find the entire frickin' thing ridiculous and Annie should not have to make
    any kind of statement about the work.

    Miley's father and several other handlers were on the set for the shoot.
    Everyone ok'd the work.

    I bet the firestorm happened when an endorsement complained. Disney already
    said the show will continue.

    Oh, and the news tonight said she will be worth a billion dollars in the next 3 years.
     
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    g'day Toffle

    so what?

    the girl and her family must have seen the images and approved at the time they were taken, now somebody has changed their mind and feels embarrased

    i like the bit about "manipulation to sell", isn't that what the whole entertainment business is about

    Ray
     
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    A Cyrus or Liebovitz playing at being innocent of manipulation or exploitation is really funny.
     
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    My guess is she turns into something that resembles an Olsen twin by the time she hits 21.

    Right after she poses for Playboy.
     
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    Really really funny...

    "Excuse me, but at what point during the act you were doing for money in front of a camera did you find you were being exploited?":rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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    They are laughing ALL the way to the bank.

    It's all crap to get spin and market buzz.

    She's another Britney Spears, and Madonna before that, and Shirley Temple before that, etc.

    Total meaningless dribble. Does it get our troops out of Iraq one day sooner? Does it reduce our dependence on petroleum? Does it insure the uninsured so they can have affordable health care? Does if end the conflict in Darfur?
     
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    Right-O. No doubt these "controversies" are cooked up by the publicity machines to avoid Debbie Gibson Syndrome in which sweet innocent teen money machines hit the wall (and lose their earning power) at age 16 or 17. What better way to extend the franchise than to catapult them into full-blown sluthood before anyone asks if they are still relevant. Of course they still matter - they are in rehab fer chrissake!

     
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    I found it interesting that Liebovitz' career was summed up in terms of two photographs... well, now I guess three.

    It is also interesting that the "news" item found it necessary to place the term "misinterpreted" in quotes. (I know... too many quotes... I think I have to lie down.)

    Ray... I agree with you, mate... 'cept I think the change of mind/embarrassment is on the corporate level. The whole thing reeks of public relations spin.
     
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    Just goes to show ya: there is no bad publicity. Not for Miley, not for Billy Ray and certainly not for Vanity Fair.
     
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    hollywood people are such retards
     
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    Just yesterday, British Channel 4 TV aired an episode of "Will and Grace" entitled "Hocus Focus" featuring guest star Glenn Close chewing the scenery to hilarious effect in the character of completely manic and obsessive photographer "Fannie Lieber". An interesting sidelight!
     
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    Oh dear her Achy Breaky Heart just broke!
    Any guy with a mullet like that can't be trusted to raise his daughter properly....

    I agree with Walter. This doesn't have much to do with photography or any other important issue in the world.
     
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    g'day all

    Tony, it may well have a lot to do with photography and context and representation and issues of copyright and usage

    Ray
     
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    Whenever I see or hear such media tripe being put forward as a "News Item" I think of the greatest force behind radio advertising,Herb Tarlek (WKRP in Cincinnati).
    He stated "Tasteless Sells".

    Where is Dr.Phill when ya need him?
     
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    Haha
     
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    And yet, in spite of all the "this is crap"/"this is pure spin" posts that are currently all over the net, people are still posting about it and fanning the flames. I'd have to say that whatever the motivation (um ... money?) the ploy has worked extraordinarily well.

    And now I have fallen into the trap myself ... ah well ...

    Cheers,
     
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    It goes like this.. each day 10 more helicopters & mobile TV stations will be following Miley Cyrus and her every move. When it hits 50 helicopters and 50 vans, usually at that point a new vital news story will break and they will be redirected. Not sure but I'm putting my money on a new American Idol sex tape surfacing. Poor Miley just needs to hang in there a few more days.
     
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    Liebovitz is a genius, and those photos are wonderful as anyone would expect from her (AL.) Some of the posing with (BRC) seems a bit odd considering he is her (MC) father, but all that aside, I don't think there is anything wrong with them at all.
     
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    Vanity Fair is the new "Tiger Beat" for 8-16 year olds..what a coup!

    Idiots. What war?
     
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    This is nothing but manufactured outrage. If anyone is being used it's Annie, not the Cyruses.

    Give me a break.
     
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    Leibovitz! Oy vey.
     
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    Snooze.
     
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    I never noticed it written, I am used to hearing it spoken as lEE bO vits, had I heard it as lII bO vits I would have spelled it right :smile: