List of European sellers of Colour chemistry

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  1. Diapositivo

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    Which European sources do you know which sell chemicals for colour development?

    I know:

    Westernphoto: http://www.westernphoto.it in Italy
    Macodirect: http://www.macodirect.de in Germany
    Morco Photographic Products: http://www.morco.uk.com in the UK (they also have single components)
    AG Photographic: http://www.ag-photographic.co.uk in the UK
    The Imaging Warehouse: http://www.theimagingwarehouse.com in the UK
    FirstCall: http://www.firstcall-photographic.co.uk in the UK (they also have the E-6 6 baths Fuji kit).

    In Italy the producer Chimifoto Ornano http://www.ornano.it should still sell some of their chemistry directly to clients with a minimum order of €60,00 but as far as I know they have discontinued the E-6 6-baths kit.

    If you (or anybody else) can add to the list, I'd be grateful.

    They mostly only have the Tetenal kits for colour developing, so for E-6 they normally only have the 3-baths kit.
     
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    www.nordfoto.de (they took over phototec when the founder of phototec retired).
     
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    Sv: List of European sellers of Colour chemistry

    www.photax.se
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    Thanks for the information. Very useful. I have just discovered that Morco doesn't ship E-6 products abroad.

    Fast translations for non-German buyers:
    (please point out any mistake)

    Erstentwickler = First developer
    Umkehrbad = Inversion (bath)
    Farbentwickler = Colour developer
    Bleichvorbad = Pre-bleach (bath)
    Bleichbad = Bleach (bath)
    Fixier = Fixer

    Nachfülllösung = Replenisher
     
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    Really useful information here. I wonder if it could be moved to the colour forum.
     
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    I wonder whether the color section could already have a sticky thread about this .... (Answer: yes) :whistling:
     
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    It hasn't. The other thread - which I read before posting this one, and to which I had contributed at the time - is more a list of what colour products are needed, but does not give a list of sellers specifically in Europe.

    This thread allows the compilation of a very useful sellers list which can be used as a reference for decades to come :smile:

    Besides, neither the other thread nor this one give a definite answer regarding whether the "starter" is needed.
    I don't find clear answers on APUG.
    Some people say that the "starter" only has the purpose of making the "replenisher" less potent during the first runs. That would mean that the "replenisher" alone could be used, maybe after having tweaked the development times.

    But you can also find different suggestions. PE - talking IIRC about C-41, not E-6 specifically - says it is adviceable to use a developer which doesn't require a starter.

    A Kodak document says that for rotative processing the Kodak "kit" should be used (107 7643) and not the starter-replenisher one.

    I cannot find the product code of the first developer of the Kodak kit. Could be 156 4632 but Kodak documentation is ambiguous on the point. It says the kit 107 7643 "replaces" the various products with various codes, among which the first developer is 156 4632, but it is not clear if it replaces them because there has been a change in formalin content, because there has been a change in packaging, or a change in formulation.

    So far the only seller I was pointed at who would sell E-6 components is Morco Photographic Products, but they don't ship E-6 products overseas.

    I think I'll have to buy an entire new kit :sad:
     
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    www.fotofachversand.com - My goto-store for (nearly) all my photographic needs, run by two great and devoted guys.
     
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    In general when you compare the formual fro a replenisher with a developer, the replensihser has a different makeup. Normaly in Black and white we just mix the developer and add replenisher as needed. Many folks don't bother with replensiher.

    In colour labs, the norm is to alwmst always use replenished systems so rathe rthan sell developer they sell replensiher and a "starter" which containes the "difference" to mix a developer. If you just want the developer you would always mix a combination of replenisher and starter.

    The Small kits assumed non replensihed use and so contain a developer rather than a replenisher-starter combination.
     
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    That definitely makes me understand that the easier route is to buy a new kit.
    "Plain" developer is not to be found anywhere outside kits.
    In the few places where I found E-6 developer not in kit, it always was of the starter-replenisher kind, and if I understand correctly in order to use it "one-shot" with the Jobo I should buy both, and that gives a too large and too expensive amount of first developer to buy. First Developer is the most perishable should be the one to be bought in smaller quantities.

    Thanks for the your help.
     
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    Thanks, moviemaniac, I just checked out fotoachversand and they have an excellent selection and good prices. I'll definitely be buying some things there.
     
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    And some further distributors in Germany:

    Tetenal (they have recently started this onlineshop for direct selling):

    http://www.silverbird24.de/
    http://www.silverbird24.com/shop/de/Fotochemikalien/Colorchemikalien

    Foto Brenner:
    http://www.fotobrenner.de/
    http://www.fotobrenner.de/default.a...59165&UG=745&UE=19,76&MENPRO=3&MZW=186&SON=10
    http://www.fotobrenner.de/default.a...59165&UG=746&UE=19,76&MENPRO=3&MZW=227&SON=10

    Lumiere:
    http://www.lumiere-shop.de/
    http://www.lumiere-shop.de/index.php?page=categorie&cat=389

    The supply situation in Germany for film, photo chemistry, lab services, film based cameras and repair is excellent.
    Lot's of very professionally working distributors, lot's of competition the consumer is benefiting from.
    The film market in Germany in general is much stronger compared to lot's of other countries.

    Best regards,
    Henning
     
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    Yes, but sadly only for C-41 and RA-4. No E-6 single baths :sad:
     
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    When I recently explained that (plus the super bargains at german drug-store chains) at the photo-department of a renown European art-academy, I got the reply "Our students can't be put up with bying in Germany!" and rather be without film than buying over here...
     
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    Must have been an art-academy renown for the idiocy of the students.
     
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    I would say rather for that of their staff.
     
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    Fotoimpex changed the layout of their webshop.
    Now the pages including product descriptions are offerd in an English version too.
     
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    Hello,

    It is certainly an old thread.
    I´ll check if the info is still ok, report back to APUG and the editor of the Lightfarm in the US.

    A lot of investigative work, but very rewarding.

    Thanks,

    Henk