I am wondering if I have the wrong film/developer/agitation combo here or is this what others experience with Classic Pan 400 film. I developed 4X5 sheets in a Joboi, using a manual contstant agitation floating in a water bath. The density was a bit high, I think I need to reduce my times a little, but I love the contrast and thought that the image came out beautifully, except for way more grain than I expect from 4X5 film. When I printed this to 11X14, it looked more grainy than what I am used to with TX and 645 fomat negs. That is a ton of grain for 4X5. Is this a bad developer for the film or for constant agitation? Do you also wonder if maybe I was too agressive with the speed at which I spun the drum? Any other ideas? I am attaching a couple of scans. One is most of the image and the other a crop of part of the image to show grain. I have only done unsharp mask, 100% at 1 pixel, to the scan, not other manipulation. Excuse the crap from the scanner bed! Thanks! Paul.