make film look granier

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  1. henryp

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    Once upon a time there was an insert to give film a more grainy look. It was a plastic doodad that went into the camera between the film and the shutter.

    Anyone recall the brand or the gadget's name? TIA.
     
  2. Ian Grant

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    Paterson made a film screen that went into an enlarger in contact with a negative, actually it came as a set of patterns , grain, fabric etc on very fine grain positive film.

    Thats all I've ever seen or heard of in 40+ years. You can't stick things in a 35mm or 120 camera between film & shutter !!!!!!

    Ian
     
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    I remember screens that could be used in the enlarger as Ian describes. Some people use gel filters between the film and the shutter, such as an IR filter so it is possible to focus and frame through the lens with an SLR, so I guess such a screen could be used in the camera, but it doesn't seem like a great idea.

    So does B&H want to sell grain screens for people to install in front of the sensor of a DSLR to make digital images that look more like... film?
     
  4. Ian Grant

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    To work the screen has to be in direct contact with the film, sometimes as David says filters are placed on the rear of lenses which is fine for colour correction etc but you need the filter "grain" to be sharp.

    Ian
     
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    Actually, I mean taping a filter in the film gate, so it would be in direct contact with the film, but not between the lens and the SLR mirror, so the filter affects the exposure, but doesn't get in the way of viewing--usually for IR filters that are almost opaque to visible light.
     
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    Not a good idea, you could easily end up with serious damage to the shutter if the tape/filter came loose while in use. It would certainly invalidate any warranty if bits were found in a shutter mechanism.

    It's far easier to do it at the printing stage, and you can also add effects like that by means best described on the Hybrid forum.

    Ian
     
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    The best plastic thing I've ever seen for adding grain is a plastic bottle of Rodinal.. :D
     
  8. Ian Grant

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    Yes, but that's fine grain :D

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    HC-110. But it doesn't go in the camera and it's not plastic, it goes in the developing tank :wink:
     
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    Well, there is the time honored practice of framing loosely and cropping aggressively. That usually works pretty well. But yes, I do remember there being a device that fit over the film gate of a 35mm SLR. Can't remember what it was called now, though I believe B&H sold it at one time.
     
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    Rate your film faster.
     
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    GOT IT!!! Sunpack ProGrain Filter Kit.[​IMG]