Making color carbon print (video

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  1. greywind

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    I want to share results of months of my work in mastering color carbon printing.



    In this 20 minute video I show how color carbon print is made:

    [video=youtube_share;S0f6f8-Tpu4]http://youtu.be/S0f6f8-Tpu4[/video]

    Video consists of 9 parts. Parts 1-6 shows sensibilization, negative registration, exposure, mating of tissue and final support, developing and warm water and final wash for yellow layer (same things that you do in monochrome carbon printing), parts 7-9 show registration and warm water developments for magenta, cyan and finally black layer. At the end final print is demonstrated.

    Please note that this video doesn't cover questions of how to make colored tissue and how to find correct exposure times for each color required to get correct color balance (This will be theme for another video).



    I consider this video as more beta version then finished work and will be very appreciated for comments and corrections.
     
  2. Mustafa Umut Sarac

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    Sergey ,

    One of the Most exciting videos I have ever watched. A lot of members see the carbon prints on the web and no idea on relief. Last part of the video was spectacular and this is my first time to see such a great and strong reliefs. The whole story was more explainatory than all I read.
    Thank you very much,

    Umut
     
  3. Andrew O'Neill

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    Excellent. Thank you for sharing. I appreciated your simple approach. What pins were you using? Unfortunately, carbon prints lose most of their relief when dry. In my video I posted two years ago, the wet print shows tremendous relief. Not much when dry. At any rate, carbon printing is the most beautiful of all the processes, in my opinion. Thanks again!
     
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    Thanks for a nice video! Very impressive and interessing!

    I've tried 4 times with a carbon prints, with no success, the color paint went loss of homogenity. (sorry for my bad english).
    Next time shall I try to first coat a paper with gelatin and color and then sensibilization the coat-layer.

    Greeting from Holland.
     
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    @Mustafa Umut Sarac, @jobbie: Thank you! I'm very glad that you have found my video interesting)

    @Andrew O'Neill:

    "What pins were you using?"
    Pins in my registration pad a ordinary household pins like this:
    10009pin.jpg
    I cut them to about 12 mm (1/2 of inch) and hold them in a pad using epoxy glue.

    "Not much when dry."
    You give me an excellent idea: I will add footage that shows how relief looks on dry print (I'm already working on new edition where typos are fixed). Of course it is not very prominent, but it is clearly seen in scattered light.

    "In my video I posted two years ago"
    Are you talking about 4 part "UltraStable Color .m4v" videos on youtube?
     
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    Thanks for this - looks very interesting indeed!!
     
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    Thanks. That's very interesting.
     
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    @gandolfi, @jjphoto: Thank you for response!

    I have updated video with footage of dry print relief. You can use this direct link to watch new footage.

    [video=youtube;8knbj7vVhC0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8knbj7vVhC0[/video]
     
  9. Andrew O'Neill

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    I can't see the relief in the dried example. Perhaps the print needs to be more in the light, and the camera placed much closer to the print...

    No, that was by Tod Gangler, I think. Mine is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmpTgDlsr3o

    I'm not working with 4 colour carbon, but experimenting more with duotone printing. A negative for black ink, and a negative for gray ink.
     
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    First the video was great to watch. Andrew, are you using digital negatives or in camera or perhaps duplication film for one? I like your idea!
     
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    Hi Curt, for duotone I've been experimenting with digital negs. Its just been so darn warm in my darkroom for carbon work I have done very little.
     
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    Andrew, I know, the northwest has had a streak of high temperatures. At 80 to 90 in the shop and darkroom I've had to work in the evening and little at that. In camera separations in ULF would not be workable. A previous instructor who did dye transfer shot transparencies with an RB67 then made separations and matrices etc.. Digital negatives does solve may problems. Duotones sounds interesting, I'm thinking of Edward Steichens "Pond", adding one more color adds a completely new dimension to the monochrome look. I hope you keep exploring this avenue.
     
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    Andrew's carbon transfers are very nice indeed, and he is very generous with his knowledge.
     
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    Curt, I will definitely play around with duotone printing. I'll see where it takes me.
    Thank you for your kind words, Matt.
     
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    Andrew, your video is responsible for my new addiction. I'm busy buying my materials now :smile: Thank you, thank you! The thing I need to learn about now is exposure, so if anyone knows of any resources, I'd be very grateful for you sharing :smile:
     
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    I saw this site with nice modern colour carbon prints:
    http://www.colorcarbonprint.com/

    And you probably know this, but "The Bostick & Sullivan Book of Modern Carbon Printing" - 2nd edition - can be downloaded as PDF for free at:
    http://bostick-sullivan.invisionzon...tick-sullivan-book-of-modern-carbon-printing/

    I've put some other sites about carbon printing on my blog as well, see:
    http://thetoadmen.blogspot.nl/2012/11/carbon-printing-beautiful-and-old.html

    Let me know if I missed something important. I will add this video also shortly if that's all right by Greywind?
     
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    Amazing! Thanks so much!
     
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    Great video illustrating the 'process' - pure analog would have been nicer though.
     
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    I agree! You could/should use one of those to shoot this video:

    super-8-film-camera.jpg

    (Sorry, couldn't resist :D)