MAT 124 W/ Sunpak 383

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  1. Irrev.Rev.

    Irrev.Rev. Subscriber

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    Hey!
    Recent 'thread' asked about MAT and more modern flash compatibility. Encouraged, I've attempted to introduce my recently acquired MAT 124 to the 383 and have found that the beveled lip on the front of the 383 mounting
    foot only permits front to back seating. The 330deg. swivel does allow head to get forward (almost); but, the light sensor is pointing aft! Anybody overcome this obstacle??

    Thanks,
    John
     
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    On my older 'period correct' Sunpak that I use with my 124G, I removed two plastic 'ears' on the foot of the unit so it would slide onto the 124G's shoe with the correct orientation.
     
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    Hi, you can use a flash bracket/handle.

    Jon
     
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    Or.. you can use a dremel tool. How absurd.

    tim in san jose
     
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    If I was to use a flash with my Mat 124, I think I'd consider reverting the shoe on the camera. It would need a simple piece to offset it a bit from the camera, some longer screws, but seems really feasible.
     
  6. Lee L

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    "reversing", je croix.

    "reverting" is to return to a prior state or condition.

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    That on-camera shoe wasn't built to hold a heavy flash. I think you're better off with a bracket, especially one that places the flash directly over the lenses.
     
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    flash on camera - ewwwww
    camera on (mono /) tripod or handheld works great with a 124G
    (i used a 411 like that for years )

    i use a stroboframe sometimes, it works ... OK
     
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    I use a small falsh in the cold shoe of the Yashica D & 124G. I had to do some "surgery" on the plastic foot to make it slide in backwards. It has some exposed 135 film end taped to the flash tube. It will set off optical slaves ok.

    Another way is to use a bracket as suggested above - But I'm cheap (so no Stroboframe). A $10 Ebay bracket with a handle mount flash & home made ($2.39 plastic bowl) diffuser can work well. check my Photobucket page for particulars. The square photos were taken with the Yashicas. You can see the dramatic difference the bracket & diffuser makes.

    http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v57/Jim.e/
     
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    Absolutely. Thanks Lee ! (But "je crois" ;-) )
     
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    I was going to say in that post that your English was definitely better than my French. But I got my words crossed up instead. Point proven.
    :smile:

    Lee
     
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    jnanian,
    I have a 124g and have wondered how well that would work for me. What model stroboframe/flash do you have and would you recommend it?
     
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    hi cdholden

    the one i used with the 124 was something that came with
    a lumedyne head attached to it. it was bought from a wedding shooter
    jeez 20years ago ... i used to attach the camera to it, and the flash conveniently was up and
    over the camera. i sold the camera ( and lost the bracket ) back in the 90s when i was broke and needed $$ :sad:
    i just b+h'd strobe frame and saw something that looked like it might do the same thing ..
    but it has a screw mount and would need a shoe-thingy...

    i use a clunky stroboframe for 35mm, D-- and half frame and lumidyne, but i think because the 124 needs to be looked down into,
    the frame i use wouldn't work ...

    sorry i can't be more help.

    john
     
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    MAT 124/Sunpak ...

    Thanks for all the suggestions; the use of stroboframe seems best solution for me at this time.

    John
     
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    hi john

    make sure you bring the camera with you when you
    look at frames ( or bacharach brackets)
    .. you want to make sure you will have
    enough top clearance since the 124 doesn't have a right angle
    viewer ... and make sure your sunpak has a pc plug too
    (and get a length of paramount pc cord ) ...
    being in newburyport, hunts photo + video
    might be a good place to look, they usually have
    a lot of stuff like that. im not sure if their non-mothership/melrose
    stores would have quite the selection though ...

    good luck!

    john