My favorite colour film has lost two stops

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  1. Kevin Caulfield

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    I spent a few days in Tasmania last week at the Freycinet Peninsula and took along some B&W film for my Hasselblad 500 C/M, and also dug out two rolls of Agfa RSX II 50 from the freezer. I expected a one stop extra exposure would be enough to compensate for the age of the RSX II. I collected the processed slide film today, and was surprised to see that one stop over was usually not enough, and I should have allowed about two stops. The film had a 2003 expiry, so it's probably not too surprising. I just thought I should share this if anybody else is shooting old Agfa slide film.
     
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    hi Kevin
    Is your stache from same batch?
    when did you last shoot and @ what EI?
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    Hi Noel, yes the same batch. The last time I used it was 2005 or 2007, and I rated it at 50.

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    Hi Kevin
    I can stop panic attack,
    2007 was not yesterday,
    The oldest slide I have is only about 2007 dated need to start again soon then.
    Sorry about yours.
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    No worries, Noel. I just found some other ones I shot in 2009 and they are better. So it has lost a bit in the last five years. But I'm not disappointed. There are no serious colour shifts so I am happy with that.

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    Hi Kevin

    I've looked and most of mine is 2009 exp Fuji 400 so I need to try one soon.

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    I have lots of 2002 dated Fuji MS 100-800 120 size and find I rate it at 100 ASA still and it comes out well -- it has been in fridge since I was given it many years ago - all that seems to happen is that the D-Max gets lower so you do not get such 'Black Blacks'. ( That is the effect of fog level on slide films)
     
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    How was yours stored??
     
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    It has been in the freezer the whole time.
     
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    Hmm that doesn't bode well for my 4x5 Astia100f that's been freezer stored, but expired in 2003...
     
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    Agfa slide film was often said not to keep well. I've no experience with it but do have some Optima 100 neg film expired 2007 I believe that seems fine.


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    I've got some Velvia, Astia, and RSX from about 10 years ago, all allegedly freezered until I got it (but definitely since), and I've never had a major problem with speed-loss. But then again, my metering is hardly an exact science and I add/subtract all sorts of fudge then guess times anyway (especially when an RVP ends up at 1s, I'll just bulb it and count to 3 or 4 in my head for reciprocity).