My one gripe with the F3HP

Discussion in '35mm Cameras and Accessories' started by Depth, Feb 23, 2010.

  1. Depth

    Depth Member

    Messages:
    46
    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2010
    Location:
    Norcal
    Shooter:
    Medium Format
    Anyone else find the button to turn on the LCD light to be way too small? Majority of the time I can't press the button while looking through the VF.
     
  2. Paul Goutiere

    Paul Goutiere Subscriber

    Messages:
    625
    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2006
    Location:
    Canmore Ab C
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    Welcome to the world of the Nikon F3. I have heard of no explanation why such a otherwise beautiful camera would have such a thing. I even looks plastic and cheap.

    The rest of the camera more than makes up for it, in my opinion.
     
  3. fotch

    fotch Member

    Messages:
    4,820
    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2005
    Location:
    SE WI- USA
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    Never gave it a thought so doesn't bother me. Just average size hands, fit in a L or XL glove.

    YMMV
     
  4. Depth

    Depth Member

    Messages:
    46
    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2010
    Location:
    Norcal
    Shooter:
    Medium Format
    I definitely agree, it's a fantastic camera and I'm glad I got it instead of an OM-4Ti (OM-4 I got from B&H had a dying shutter). Just surprised that Nikon overlooked it and never fixed it in the other variations.
     
  5. Kiron Kid

    Kiron Kid Member

    Messages:
    441
    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2005
    Shooter:
    35mm
    Let us not forget the paltry 1/80 flash sync. :-(
     
  6. RidingWaves

    RidingWaves Member

    Messages:
    818
    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2006
    Location:
    Hawaii
    Shooter:
    35mm RF
    I don't mind the flash, that's what an F4 is for. The viewfinder illuminator button is and always has been a joke. Maybe Sover Wong can devise an LED replacement.
     
  7. RidingWaves

    RidingWaves Member

    Messages:
    818
    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2006
    Location:
    Hawaii
    Shooter:
    35mm RF
    Don't forget about the flash, 1/80th is almost to 1/125, which if you were using either Plus-X, Kodachrome 25 or Pan-x, you could do a daylight sync without much trouble. I used to do it with the Vivitar 283, set on Blue if I recall...
     
  8. clayne

    clayne Member

    Messages:
    2,836
    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2008
    Location:
    San Francisc
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    Yep. It's everyone's gripe really. It requires a fingernail and it's flaky in operation. I never use it. At night where I'd need it I'm usually 1/30 and below, wide-open.
     
  9. epatsellis

    epatsellis Member

    Messages:
    907
    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2006
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    All of my LCD buttons stopped working years ago, quite likely a simple fix, but for low light and/or flash work, I use the F4 as well. The F3's have served me well, but they're far from my primary film camera now.
     
  10. Mark Layne

    Mark Layne Member

    Messages:
    919
    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2003
    Location:
    Nova Scotia
    Go back to an F2 - none of these problems
    Mark
     
  11. pesphoto

    pesphoto Member

    Messages:
    479
    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2005
    Location:
    Providence R
    Shooter:
    35mm RF
    ive got one in the classifieds right now if any interest...w lenses
     
  12. jphendren

    jphendren Member

    Messages:
    130
    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2009
    Location:
    North Las Ve
    Shooter:
    35mm
    I find it humerous; the first thing that came to mind when I read read your thread title is that annoying little red button for turning on the viewfinder illumination. That was my biggest gripe about an otherwise very nice camera. My F5 and F6 have very easy to turn on LCD backlighting.

    Jared
     
  13. Paul Goutiere

    Paul Goutiere Subscriber

    Messages:
    625
    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2006
    Location:
    Canmore Ab C
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    This is very true. I have two nice old F2s, one with a DP-11 and the other with a DP-1. Neither have the jumpy needle syndrome (yet). Since I don't use flash the 1/80th flash sync and the weird flash attachment don't bother me.

    I like to be able to adjust the meter on these cameras by looking down at the meter window on the top of the camera without putting the camera to my eye.

    The versatility, battery independence and reliability of these old cameras is awesome.

    The F3HP is a really nice camera too, however. It looks nice, the finder is bright and I like the way it fits my hand.
     
  14. Sponsored Ad
  15. Pumal

    Pumal Member

    Messages:
    580
    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2009
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    Never used it.
     
  16. Ihmemies

    Ihmemies Member

    Messages:
    72
    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2009
    Shooter:
    35mm
    I wish F3 had same kind of switch like in F4. The button is so very useless.
     
  17. lxdude

    lxdude Member

    Messages:
    6,942
    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2009
    Location:
    Redlands, So
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    I like the F3, and have one, but I've always found the tiny button's size, location, lack of feel and frequent refusal to function properly, irritating to the point of being insulting. I mean, people paid a lot of money for that machine and they were expected to just accept that inadequate afterthought.
    It's always amazed me that Nikon allowed that "feature" to make it to production, it's so bad. That they never saw a need to fix it is beyond me.
    Did no one in the top ranks see it would have been better to leave it off than include such a lousy design?
     
  18. clayne

    clayne Member

    Messages:
    2,836
    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2008
    Location:
    San Francisc
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    Alright relax, it's a simple LCD illumination button. It's not a deal breaker by any means. Do what the rest of us do: ignore it.
     
  19. lxdude

    lxdude Member

    Messages:
    6,942
    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2009
    Location:
    Redlands, So
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    Sorry, we all have our pet peeves. I just get annoyed by stooopid design, especially from companies that should know better. Like you said, just ignore it. I ignored it, and it went away. That is, it stopped working at all.
     
  20. unclemack

    unclemack Member

    Messages:
    127
    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2009
    Shooter:
    4x5 Format
    First one of mine that stopped working I took the top plate off to clean the switch. I was a repairer at the time so knew perfectly well how to do the job but it started acting up again within 18 months.
    So I used a white chip led from a mobile phone & modified the circuit a lttle so that the light comes on and goes off with the meter. Never got around to doing the other bodies though... maybe one day.
    It's quite easy, any repairer should be able to do the job for you - I think Nikon used to offer a similar mod. but without the led.
     
  21. Shawn Rahman

    Shawn Rahman Subscriber

    Messages:
    1,000
    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2005
    Location:
    Whitestone, NY
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    I'll take a different position on this: both the light and the LCD still work on my nearly 30-year old F3HP. The light may be awkward and rarely used, but it still going strong, so something must be right with it.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Feb 24, 2010
  22. Mick Fagan

    Mick Fagan Subscriber

    Messages:
    3,109
    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2005
    Location:
    Melbourne Au
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    I just checked both of my F3HP bodies, both lights work perfectly.

    However I cannot remember the last time I used a light to see the reading, maybe 20 years ago, maybe longer.

    I don't think it was a stupid design, it was cutting edge when it was released, especially for a conservative company.

    Mick.
     
  23. Chan Tran

    Chan Tran Member

    Messages:
    2,386
    Joined:
    May 10, 2006
    Location:
    Aurora, IL
    Shooter:
    35mm
    back when I first got it in 82 I did use it and found quite difficult to use. Nowaday, it's a nice decorating element, not functioning. My F2AS was stolen in 84 and I can't remember where the button was, it did have such a button
     
  24. Nikon Collector

    Nikon Collector Member

    Messages:
    162
    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2009
    Location:
    Carolina Bea
    Shooter:
    35mm
    So very very true, I've never found anything about my F2 that I didn't like
     
  25. steven_e007

    steven_e007 Member

    Messages:
    829
    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2007
    Location:
    Shropshire,
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    I've only recently aquired an F3 for pictorial photograohy - and I find it to be... lacking in the "intuitive" department!

    Either you know where the right button is... or you don't. Most other cameras I've used it is obvious... but not the F3.

    I also played with an F5 the other day - also knobs all over the place and no obvious sense or reason.

    I say "aquired for pictorial photography" because for the last 13 years I have used Nikon cameras as part of my job as film recording devices. Nothing comes close. We have tried many other 35mm cameras and absolutely nothing... NOTHING came close to the reliability and longevity of Nikon cameras. When the F3 was discontinued we switched to Leica SLRs... good, but they had a shorter life as everyone went digital so we were not able to make a real comparison. My hunch is that Nikon would have still been supreme.

    But yes... that little red button drives me NUTS!
     
  26. Curt

    Curt Subscriber

    Messages:
    4,560
    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2005
    Location:
    Pacific Nort
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    When I bought mine, new, I was told it was the model that is "drugged though the mud all over the World by Journalists". I guess they never use some of the features on the camera. I do love this camera and the 55mm Micro Nikkor lens is the cats **s for sharpness.