My piggie warmer...

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  1. Mike Té

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    No, not my new socks.

    We just had 37 cm of new snow dump on us 2 days ago and it's snowing again. It's minus 15 C outside and in our old un-insulated house it's colder than a rat snake's fart in the basement.

    My piglet warmer keeps my paper developer at a cozy 21 C.

    I bought it from Farmtek last spring:

    http://www.farmtek.com/farm/supplies/prod1;ft1_hog_equipment;pg106120.html
     
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    Be careful that the ice crystals in your wash water don't scratch your prints.

    Haven't seen this much white stuff for many years and it isn't winter yet.
     
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    I'ld be sittin on the thing. Screw the developer.
     
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    Mike

    I just bought one too.
    It is in my darkroom and already have been using it.

    big thanks to Murray for his SOOOEEE thread.
     
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    I was just about to go searching for that thread. Thanks for the link! My stainless sink chills everything, even if the air is warm.
     
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    Thanks to Murray, I have been this pig warmer since a week after the thread started. It has never missed holding temperature where I want it. My next door neighbor just bought one for his darkroom...EC
     
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    Yes, I got the info from Murray's thread about a year ago; a great idea. Mine's about 17" x 17", just for the dev tray. I should buy one of those 27" x 60 inch-ers to stand on while I work. :smile:
     
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    Get a bigger tray for your developer, warm that and sit it to. Good for prints, good for hemaroids. :D
     
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    Tmike,

    I would be much interested in the 17x17 one that you mention---where did you get? I did not see that one on the link provided above.

    Thanks.
     
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    ...big piggie warmer

    I was processing some 20x24 film the other day and my darkroom was cold....I think I need TWO of the 27"x60" ones to keep all my 20x24 trays warm!
     
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    Probably, but it will work well...EC
     
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    Hi, Chuck.

    I bought my mat from Farmtek and just noticed today as well that it's not on their list. I Googled "Kane heat mat" and found several possibilities. Here's one for reptile enthusiasts(!):

    http://lllreptile.com/store/catalog...cable-and-rocks/-/kane-18-x-18-poly-heat-mat/

    Good luck!

     
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    Here's a site that has a pic of the one that I have. 18" x 18" after all:

    http://www.countrysidepet.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=2263

    That's about the price I paid as well.


     
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    Do any of you that use these heated mats also use the thermostats to control them? The whole shooting match becomes a bit spendy if you add the thermo control
     
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    I have a rheostat control, no temp probe. I had to fiddle a bit to get the dev to stay at the correct temp, but I've found the right setting. I figure that if I add another electric heater to heat up the whole basement, that'll cost a lot more. Plus, the time it would take to heat up those cement walls once I decide I want to get down there to start work...

    The ambient temp is fairly consistently around 16 C, tolerable with a good sweater and good socks (the OTHER piggie warmers, much cheaper). The mat bumps the dev temp up a notch, the consistency being a major factor.

    Of course, then I'm still dealing with stop and fix at 16 C. I'm not sure that that's terribly consequential, but then I'm not anywhere near an authority on the matter. Ideally, I could have bought a longer mat to accommodate more and larger trays, I guess.

     
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    Shucks y'all, t'was nuthin :smile:

    Murray
     
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    Also check out their or others for Seedling Heat Mats.
    They are much less expensive and I believe cover the
    temperature range needed. Dan
     
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    I have the temp regulator and probe,, I wonder where this is put if a live pig is on the matt rather than my chems???
    took a while to figure out , in fact I think we had to rewire the controller.

    I tried this sucker out myself since I have the same body weight and shape as a mature swine. Though nice and toasty the material was very hard to sleep on, I guess if I grow more body hair it will cushion the weight.

    Thanks Murray, this was a winner on tips of the year catagorey.
     
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    Pigs aren't really renowned for their thick fur.:D
     
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    Somewhere around here I've got a heating pad that used to warm a water bed. If I can find it I'll have to try it out. Hmmm, if it's not been seen for a decade or more, where is it most likely to be? Sly
     
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    I use the thermostat Farmtek sells for the Pig Warmer. I set the thing one time and it has been on the mark ever since. I have used heating pads, seedling pads and my sink is a Arkay temperature controlled E6 processor. The Pig Warmer with the thermostat beats them all...EC
     
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    Fish tank heaters are glass, so can sit in a tray of chemicals, and will normally hold a temp to within 1F
     
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    Besides the seedling heat mats there are reptile heat
    mats. Lots of info and sources via Google. Ebay also.

    Likely the best bets are the seedling mats. Low wattage
    per unit of surface area should make temperature control
    possible by the use of between mat and tray insulating
    materials; paper, fabric, whatever. Thermostats are
    available. Flora mats are much less expensive
    than the fauna. Dan
     
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    I got really lucky and found a temperature controlled, recirculating water bath from a guy who was liquidating his darkroom on ebay awhile back. I think it was intended to keep film developer at the right temp during development, but the lip of an 8x10 tray sits perfectly on the top of the tank so that the tray itself sits down in the water bath. This setup has completely solved my wintertime print developer temperature drift. Now if I could figure a way to turn the water circulator into a wave action, it could do my agitation for me as well!