Need help identifying mystery Rolleiflex

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  1. Laurent

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    Hello all,

    I found, on the equivalent of Craig's list, a Rolleiflex for sale near my home.

    The prices seems quite good (if it works, but this I can find later) but I can't identify the model.

    It looks very close to my 3.5 "B" (aka MX-EVS aka K4B) but might be a "white face", has a 3.5/75 Tessar, "crocodile" strap... but a serial # in the 2.700000 range, which I can't find anywhere.

    The serial would make it a 3.5 "F", and a real bargain, but the lens does not fit in the schema...

    any clue would be appreciated!
     
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    have to study the shutter release to see which MX/automat model if it is one. The size of the focusing knob is also a clue. There's some rollei collector's website with many variations I presume you've checked.
     
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    As you said, there don't appear to be Rollei TLRs in the 2,700,000 range at all. You're sure about that number? My initial reaction was that it might be a T, because it has a Tessar, but the shutter release on those is different from all the other 120 Rollei models. You're sure it's a Tessar?
     
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    Is that the serial number of the lens or the body of the camera?
     
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    I haven't seen the camera yet, so cannot be sure. I checked the sites I know (Rolleiclub, Antique cameras...), the only information that could match is from AntiqueCameras.net, where is reported serial number between 2250000-2810000 for a 3.5F type 3, but no Tessar

    From the low quality image I saw, it's definitely not at T, looks very close to my own automat, but with "crocodile" strap attachments.

    It has the timer on the upper right corner (like the automats), here's a copy of the only image I've got Sans titre.png
    The number is the camera's one, the lens would be maked "Tessar 1:3.5 f=75mm CARL ZEISS Nr 1669377"
     
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    White face cameras have the serial number on the front taking lens surround. The rest have serial number above the rolleiflex name plate. Look carefully at all the fastening points and the spanner wrench grooves, if they have been tooled then it might be a franken-flex, made up of parts from more than one camera. Bob.
     
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    Even the bad photo shows that the faceplate is NOT a white face. Everything points to an MX-EVS, as you suspected. Maybe the serial number is the top lens. Or someone installed a new name plate (but late series plates are set up for removable hoods?).
     
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    I'm trying to check with my Rolleiflex repair man, as I know he already did some transformations to add detachable hood to cameras which did not have it.

    As far as I know, the serial was found on the hood, and not lens nameplate.
     
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    It does look like an MX-EVS, but that model did not have the alligator strap lugs. I think we have something that's been "customized." Maybe not a bad thing overall.
     
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    I'd be very careful with Rolleiflexes that look like this. In my experience of buying and examining many old Rollei's those brownish edges on the camera leather and on the handle generally show me something that may have been stored in wet or not ideal conditions and might be an indication of shutter problems or interior rust problems. Make sure you look at it face-to-face before you buy.
     
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    I wonder if the seller didn't make a typo? The nameplate is the normal one for a 3,5 B, and this model had serial numbers up in the 1 700 000's. If it's a typo, then it's a normal 3,5 B with the strap lugs changed for the newer type.
     
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    It was my first guess, but I'm really unsure.

    Anyway, I think I'll never know as I spent the money on a 15mm for the Leica instead of a second Rolleiflex!
     
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    Good choice: spending it on more glass instead of on an other black box you already have!
    BTW: did you get a Voigtlander 15 mm? I did and it never left my Leica M4-2.
     
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    Yes, this is what I got (version 2, with filter attachment and RF coupling)

    I also got two ND filters to go with it, can't wait to shoot it!
     
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    Show us the images, show us the images !!
     
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    Have fun with your new lens!

    I wouldn't have bought that Rolleiflex either, since I want them to be all original. But if I didn't care about that and I just wanted a "user" I would have wanted more information about the specific camera, better pictures, and preferably testing it before buying. I'm a collector as well as user, so I stay away from "frankenrolleis".