New Bergger Products are at home

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  1. Aurelien

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    Yes, this morning, while I was shooting, the post man rang. He was bringing me a big parcel from Bergger: The new Variable NB is at last here!!! I will try it this afternoon, and tell you. Boxex are no longer creamy, they are grey. That is the first difference :smile:
     
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    Excellent.
     
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    I am very curious as to how the new papers compare to the old ones. Please keep us posted.
     
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    Well, I have already tested it. One print. I have never seen so deep blacks. That's all what I can say at the moment. I will keep you informed.
     
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    Hmm...excellent. I developed some unexposed film that I want to print really really black...I've been looking for the right paper to use :tongue:

    I hope the Forte clones arent far behind.

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  7. George Papantoniou

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    Any clue where we can order online ??
     
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    You have maybe to ask them on their website.

    As far as I am concerned, I order it direct at the company.
     
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    Well, I don't know if it is the right place or not, but I will go on telling you my experiments with this new paper.

    First, I made tests to determine wether the paper is the same or not. The results shows that the sensitivity is the same that former variable NB. Same sensitivity, and same reaction to contrast modulation. The new paper is very close to the former one.

    Second I tested the reactivity to selenium. On this point the new paper is clearly less sensitive that the former one. The former NB used to have a magenta tone after a very short virage. The new one does not exhibit such a propriety. No big tonal change. But the DMAx seems to be enhanced after selenium.

    Third, I compared it to Foma Variant 111. Clearly, the NB is very cooltone, whereas the foma is a little warm (I precise that I developped in Tetenal Eukobrom, and I used to think that results with Foma 111 were cooler than when I develop it in Harman Warmtone). NB paper base is whiter than Foma's.

    I think it is not very pertinent to scan the prints, because, with the digital step, you won't see any difference between the prints.
     
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    This sounds promising. I need to find a substitute for my dwindling stock of Polygrade.
     
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    Very good to hear. I'm waiting to hear when it arrives in the US.
     
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    Saw something on Freestyle the other day that implied they would have their Bergger shipment in as of the 27th of this month.
    Who wants to start a pool on how quickly that sells out?
    I know what I'll be ordering first thing that morning.
     
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    I have ade other prints on the new NB. Very impressive ... You can see them

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    Does anyone have news about Bergger ? I tried to call (US Branch) today and yesterday but i was always answered by the answering machine...
     
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    In the UK a company called Linhof & Studio Ltd seem to be the main supplier of Bergger products. They still list a range of photographic papers plus three inkjet lines. Some months ago there was a note on the site saying that Bergger were no longer selling films. All these products are made by third parties, as Bergger don't have their own production facilities. The US "branch" was possibly a distributor rather than a subsidiary. Maybe they have changed their phone number, or perhaps there is now a different distributor, or even no US distributor?
     
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    I bought a 25 sheet package of Bergger Variable CB 11 x 14 from B&H, here in NY. The paper is said to be a warm tone paper, but I got neutral tone prints in warm tone developer (Defender, from formula). However the image was very rich, with good blacks and the paper responded well to filtration changes. I will use this paper again. Most Bergger products are available in the US from their website. http://www.bergger.com/us/paper.html