New Spot Meter

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  1. Silverpixels5

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    Was thinking about upgrading from my old Minolta Auto Spot II to a more recent spot meter and was wondering if anyone had some suggestions. I'd like a digital one that will take both ambient and flash readings. Also I'm looking to spend $200 or less, so a used one is definitely an option. Thanks for any help you all can offer!
     
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    What features does your current meter lack that makes you want to get a new one? The under $200 market is pretty tough already, but by adding Flash capability to it, you are going to blow it out of the water.
     
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    Well the main feature I'd like is for it to work all the time. The one I have now is actually great for me but it works when it wants to, and one of the elements in the lens is damaged. The damage in the lens doesn't effect the reading at all, but it's rather annoying to have in your line of sight. Also, the meter acts funny in low light situations. Oh, and the $200 was a mistake...I meant to say $300.
     
  4. David A. Goldfarb

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    You can find the Minolta Spotmeter F used for under $300. Try keh.com.
     
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    Has anyone ever used the the 5 degree spot on the Minolta IVF? I need some sort of spotmeter to use with my 4x5 as the only meter I have is the IVF, but I don't have any money to spend. Think it might work out as an intermediary while I pay for this year's school bills?
     
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    I have the 5-deg. finder and use it on my Flashmeter III. It works for many situations, but sometimes a narrower spot is handy.
     
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    Well nevermind, I just looked some more at KEH and the 5 degree spot attatchment is for the Flashmeter IVF not the Autometer IVF like I have [​IMG]
    Oh, well, sorry for taking your post on a tangent with no point (but hey, I've always been told to do what I'm good at).
     
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    Well I went to the minolta site and it seems that yes the autometer IVF can use the 5 degree spot and there is also an enlarging meter for it... hmm, I may have to email minolta and see if the ones KEH and B&H list are compatible.

    ps: maybe I should just start my own thread where I can talk to myself [​IMG]
     
  9. David A. Goldfarb

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    There is just one type of 5-degree finder. Pretty much all the accessories are interchangeable on all the IV and V meters and the Flashmeter III, but certain combinations require manually calculated exposure adjustments. The new Flashmeter VI doesn't seem to take the old accessories.
     
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    I have the minolta IVf and 5 degree spot attachment. 5 degrees is just too wide for landscaspe and nature photography. I ended up getting a used Pentax spot meter V and use that outdoors and use my minolta indoors for flash work and still life.

    Brian
     
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    While I use the modified Pentax digital, I found it interesting that Edward Weston did not favor or use a meter of any sort. In fact the image "Church Door at Hornitos" would have been underexposed by 5 stops had he relied on a meter.

    I have been strongly considering moving to a more intuitive use of materials with my increased emphasis on contact printing. Using what Fred Picker called his "key day" method of determining exposure. In bright (hard shadow) lighting one arrives at a exposure based upon the film and developer, on bright hazy lighting open up one stop, on light overcast open up a stop, and on heavy overcast open up still another stop. In early morning or late evening light open up at least one and one half stops from one's key day exposure. This procedure would probably work best when developing by inspection so that the contrast is monitored at the developing stage.

    I think that if I have the courage of my convictions, it will improve my ability to see my images better, by getting the technical side of matters down to size.
     
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    I recently got myslef the Minolta Autometer Vf with separate 5 degree attachment. It works fine, quite accurate. It will measure flash, ambient and a mix of both. A tad pricey but....it thinks it's still good value.

    Hans
     
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    I second the intuitive metering suggestion. I've been occassionally going meterless just so I can learn more. Part of it is the appeal of being able to work without a meter if need be, and part is learning about how they used to do things and how the materials work.
     
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    Edward Weston did not favor light meters, but developed by inspection, using the same materials day in and day out. The comment about his church photograph being saved by not metering does not make sense.

    Fred Picker said many things; some made sense, while others did not. I loved him dearly as a friend, but many comments he made, especially later in life, were not supported by fact. The truth is, his own work was not that consistently good.

    A good light meter is a good thing.
    Steven
     
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    A good light meter is a good thing.

    I prefer to take a light reading and let the film do its work. Edward Weston was one of the greats (read as Gods) of photography. Now I will admit to using the "sunny 16" rule but only after making sure it is the thing to use. So, I agree with the statement above. One of the other posters said he has started to go meterless so he can learn more. I ask what is there to learn when you blow the shot because the meter is at home. Bracket? Well, I guess but maybe you are so far off that even 2 each side of your decision could result in NO exposures. Take the meter your film will thank you.


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