My F5 is totalled [shooting in the pouring rain=a camera that smells like burnt electronics] so I now need a new camera. I'm not too sad about it, but rather am excited to try a new camera. I'm considering the F4. The F5 was kind of too much camera, features that I never used, like the 8FPS film advance. I also prefer that the F4 seems quite a bit lighter than the F5, and it has the awesome manual controls VS the screens in the F5. I also don't need more than one focus point. I would miss the AF-ON button on the back, but thats it. My choices are another BGN F5 at $300 or a EX F4s at $350. What do you think?