Non Supercoated VC Paper

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    Does anyone know if there is such a paper out there?

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    what is that?

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    Have you tried the Kentmere website ?
     
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    As far as I know the only non super-coated papers currently available are #2 graded papers. They are the Kentmere Art Document paper, and the Foma or Forte paper that JandC markets for bromoil.

    If you are thinking of carbro use I was able to get excellent results with Kodak Polycontrast III RC, N surface, but that was some years ago. Perhaps Mac will weigh in here with some info about the paper he is currently using for carbro.

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    Hi Lee,

    Never heard of it myself until a couple days ago when I started to search the Web for information on carbro prints. Supercoat is a thin protective layer on top of the papers emulsion...a few manufacturers make a non supercoated paper for bromoil transfers, the application of different media to the surface of the print, and for other processes I'm sure.

    Not many by the looks of it.

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    thanks Murry for the info

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    Just another word on this. In the 30s and 40s it became common practice to put a super coating of hardened gelatin (*on top of the emulsion layer*) on papers to reduce the risk of stress marks. Since the carbro reaction depends on 100% contact of the bromide printer with the sensitzed carbon tissue the super coating interferes with the process, especially in the highlights, since the tanning action takes place in the hardened super-coating, which is not image area, rather than in the silver image. This results in loss of highlight detail.

    When carbro was popular there were several brands of special non super-coated papers available on the market. These papers more or less disappeared in the 50s. The fact that there are now at least two different non super-coated papers on the market should be of interest to anyone seriously thinking of making carbro prints.

    Sandy King