Not making picture

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  1. benjiboy

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    I was talking to an old photographer friend yesterday who remarked " don't need photoshop I take pictures, not make them "
     
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    Taking and printing a photograph is a mechanical and artistic process, so you are making images using Analog.

    In addition the creative part of taking the image, the choice of subject, framing, exposure etc is the same regardless of whether you use film or digital.

    It's only the craft and materials that differ.

    Ian
     
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    Despite the many configurations and variations of the language used to describe it, it's the hands-on process that people who express a preference seem to be reacting to. It doesn't matter at all that there's art and craft to the digital workflow (which, of course, is the case), it's the "feel" of the analog way of making a photograph that's being spoken of. Tim Rudman says it eloquently in his "The Photographer's Toning Book", but I don't have it handy to quote from. If you have access to it, his comments about analog work are at the beginning of the first chapter I think. (A terrific book for it's intended purpose, btw.)
     
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    I "make" photographs. My method from start to finish is analog. I have not ever used the term "capture" to refer to photographs. I guess I do "capture" images when I use a small d****al camera for family snaps as I will this holiday season. It is how you see it in your own mind. Say what makes you happy.
     
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    I went to photography school in the early 1970s before anyone suspected the digital era and the instructor always beat into our heads that we should make pictures not just take them.
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    Hey, nice capture Paul, where did you acquire it?
     
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    Yeah, it's all semantics. Actually I like to think I make photographs and not take them. I put myself into the creation rather than just take the image without offering anything in return. You know, tomato - tomato. Or Cleveland - Cleveland.
     
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    The way i see it, I take a picture when I click the shutter(or whatever I use as shutter at the moment).
    I make a picture when I work on it in the darkroom.
    Am I missing something?
     
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    No, I think it's just a personal POV and different for everybody. The way that everyone's photography means something different to themselves alone.
     
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    Sounds like he's having a bit of a lark, but otherwise, he must be very old to have such an antiquated view of art. Photography as an art form is made, not taken and certainly not snapped.
     
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    What a pretentious statement! Tell him to forget about semantics and just keep buying lots of film.
     
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    Both film and digital are subject to picture taking and picture making. It starts when you put your eye in the VF. Framing, shadow detail, acutance, high lights, DOF, shutter speed etc.
     
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    ;-)
     
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    John is old, and is the retired former head of photography for the city I live in, and is the best darkroom worker I know, his remark was meant to be an ironic shot at Photoshop I think, and the way that effects can be produced that don't appear in nature .
     
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    You said it best.

    In other words, I think we "take" and "capture" light, then we make it in PhotoShop or the wet darkroom.

    I really don't see why some get hung up on semantics, and take offense to "take" and "capture"...
     
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    Perhaps the old boy's hemmoriods are acting up...just saying...