Odourless Fixer - is there a demand??

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  1. tom_bw

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    Hi all:

    Ilford has odourless stop bath (citric acid based). That leaves fixer as the only really smelly chemical. Unfortunately, it is getting harder to find such formulations (e.g. based on F-6 formula).

    Just out of curiosity, are there others out there who would appreciate the availability of odourless fixer by someone such as Ilford (i.e. so it is easier to get worldwide).

    Thanks!
     
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    TF5 from formulary.
     
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    Are you nuts?

    That's the entire reason I go in to the darkroom! :smile:
     
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    Clayton and Arista (from Freestyle) produce an ordorless fixer.
     
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    Call me nuts but, I love the smell of fixer!
     
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    i make rapid odourless fixer for me and my school!!!

    1liter:
    sodium thiosulfate - 200gr
    ammonium chloride - 40gr
    sodium metabisulfite -20gr
    borax - 20 gr


    it´s just mildly acidic and has a very faint acidic smell, it can be used to paper or film, i use it undiluted as is dirt cheap
     
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    I've only used Zonal Pro (Alta) rapid fixer. I'm not sure how smelly it is. Basically, my goal is always to find the cheapest non-hardening rapid fixer around and just use it.
     
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    Tetenal also makes odourless fixer.
     
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    Also, Rollei RXN Odourless Fixer.

    Mark Walker.
     
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    I also love the smell!
     
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    Readily available is Kodak Flexicolor Fixer, made for colour processing but a nice near-neutral rapid fixer. Slightly acid, bit odour is very much diminished compared to acid "black and white" fixers. It's cheaper, too.

    And don't worry, your darkroom still smells like a darkroom, just less obtrusive when you're near the fixer tray.
     
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    I'm currently using Kodak Flexicolor, as John says, it's almost odorless, at least to my nose. So is Ilford Hypam.

    I don't notice much odor of anything in my darkroom except when I open my jug of glacial acetic acid, but maybe I'm like a farmer in his barn and just to used to it to notice.

    To answer the question, no I wouldn't seek out an odorless fix, since there are already products available that are close enough.
    On the other hand, I will not buy TF-4 again because of its ammonia odor.
     
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    no need.i like the smell of fxer. not quite the same without it.
     
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    Thanks for all the help. Based on some of the replies, I am getting the feeling there would be a greater market for a hyper smelly fixer that there would be for an odourless one :smile:
     
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    Let's be honest now... we all love the smell of fixer. :D
     
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    If you think fixer is smelly, wait until you try sepia (or other sulfide) toners. :smile: It's not even a close contest. They flat out smell disgusting.
     
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    Or old redeveloper from the tmax direct positive kit... ugh.
     
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    I'd rather say that smelly fixers are so unpopular that pretty much all you get nowadays is next to odorless, unless one has special requirements like high/low pH. Some vendors advertise this more than others.
     
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    If I wanted odourless photography I'd have gone d*****l years ago!
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    Sometimes you just have to use the chemicals that do the job properly !!! Even if it offends your sensitive nose :D
     
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    Real men don't use deodorants and don't use odourless fixers. Real men smell.
     
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    My darkroom is tiny. I only use chemicals that are almost odorless. Citric acid stop bath was the first, then I started using odorless fixers. Here in Europe there is also Amaloco X89 and Moersch's ATS fixer.

    But of course.... see my signature.
     
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    Since my darkroom is in my closet, I use Clayton odorless fixer and a water stop bath. Rodinal has a very slight smell, but not particularly notable. Especially since the space is small I have to keep strong smells to a minimum.