Oh, my hand slipped on the mouse...

Discussion in 'Large Format Cameras and Accessories' started by Kino, Apr 24, 2006.

  1. Kino

    Kino Member

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    Well it was frightfully cheap, but I will still be in the dog house...

    Calumet monorail with a Kodak 170mm, f6.3 lens, 3 holders and a light meter for $90.

    You infected me with your disease.

    I swear the dog just said "deardorf"...
     

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    Welcome to the dark slide.
     
  3. Capocheny

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    Kino,

    At least, YOU got away cheap!

    When I first started into LF photography I also made my very first bid on e**y at about the same time... on a LF camera. Well, I hit the enter key and ended up winning a brand NIB Sinar X AND then...a brand NIB Sinar F2. Imagine my surprise! :smile:

    I thought the bid on the X didn't get registered and, therefore, I didn't win it. Of course, as it happened, the auctions ended within seconds of each other. So, that's when I thought, "better make a bid on the F2." :smile: The end result was that I ended up winning BOTH cameras! :smile:

    In retrospect, I can chuckle over the incident. But, at the time... I thought, "holy *$&%*, what am I going to do with 2 brand new, expensive Sinar 4x5 cameras???" My wife, needless to say, had one BIG chuckle over "my" situation! :smile:

    Fortunately or, unfortunately, I wasn't fully aware of how e**y worked or how the second bid might have been retracted. Even if I did... I probably wouldn't have done so considering I was the final bidder and it wouldn't have been fair to the seller. It was a pretty funny experience. :smile:

    So, for what you paid for your camera... I hope your stay in the doghouse isn't a prolonged one! :smile:

    Anyway, welcome to the world of LF imaging... go out, burn some film, and have fun with the new camera!

    Cheers
     
  4. Ole

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    That was a cheap "slip", compared to my $2000 one...

    But at least I got a fine Carbon Infinity for it. :D
     
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    Kino,
    With a little black silicone and some plumbing, you could turn the doghouse into a smaller version of your darkroom.
    Chris
     
  6. Dan Fromm

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    Ole, I've been meaning to ask if y'r Carbon is the one that got no bids at $1,750. As has been pointed out, there aren't very many of them.

    Cheers,

    Dan
     
  7. Ole

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    I don't know, I can't find that one. Mine is one that failed to reach reserve price, but the seller decided it was close enough. With postage and Norwegian taxes it ended up at just about $2000. A lot of money, but for a lot of camera. And a camera that could have been designed for my use, even!
     
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    Frank, looks like a great deal to me. Which meter did you "select" with this deal, was it a nice, new digital spot meter? This sounds like an excellent way to work to me. All you need is a sturdy tripod and a trip out to shoot now. Want to see some prints! tim
     
  9. Kino

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    You know, it just might work... :wink:
     
  10. Dave Parker

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    Kino,

    Look at it this way, at leasts it is spring and the weather for the most part is pretty nice, I bought my first one in the dead of winter! which here in Montana, is down right COLD!

    :D

    Dave
     
  11. Kino

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    Tim,

    Oh were it true! I am stuck yet with my Pentax 1/21 needle spot meter, but it could be worse. I think I now have a method of working around pegging the needle on high EV scenes. Working on just reading and getting comfortable with scene EV now.

    The meter that came with this is a Toshiba; that is all I know. Never used a Toshiba light meter, guess I will know in a few days... :wink:

    Oh and I have a tripod that you wouldn't believe, just have to get one foot on a leg recast in aluminum. I will post pictures when possible. It has a gear head, a 10" x 10" top plate and can easily hold me (250 lbs) without vibration or flexing.

    Working on the processing tubes and I hope to start rolling prints out the door very soon.

    Frank
     
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  12. BradS

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    Welcome. You're now standing at the top of the proverbial "slippery slope" with one foot on a banana peel. Better get used to the dog house. I've carpetted mine, installed an enlarger timer and a few trays. Plumbing next month....
     
  13. Dan Fromm

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    Yeah, yeah, yeah, and you were just idly strumming on the keyboard when you entered the bid.

    Thing is, you're set now and don't have to buy anything else. Ever. Many of us here, me included, so don't anyone zing me for saying it, have too many lenses and cameras. One camera, one lens, one light meter, one semi-coherent vision.

    And you got off very lightly. Very lightly indeed.

    Good luck, have fun, don't look back,

    Dan
     
  14. Kino

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    It was the virtual equivalent of poking a tiger with a stick and getting too close...

    Ever? :sad:

    Well, I don't think I will set the World on fire with that combo, but I probably wouldn't be able to with a tanker full of gasoline and a Sinar with a Nikkor lens either, so I shouldn't go denigrating the equipment! :wink:

    Onward and downward ; it's a race to the bottom on that slippery slope.

    Frank
     
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    "I swear the dog just said 'deardorf'"...

    Frank,
    The kids are next. When my daughter who hates cars brought her son age three to visit from Denver I took him by the hand and walked him by my model collection and got him to say Porsche, Bugatti, Duesenberg, Ferrari... plant the seeds and the kids may defend you down the road, even peer over your shoulder and press the shutter release.

    John Powers
     
  16. Kino

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    LOL. Good tactic! Thanks John!
     
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    Nice buy Kino. My first LF camera was the B&J version of this camera. Great for normal to moderatly long lens. But I couldn't get much movement out of a 111mm lens. Never tried a 90mm but I think you would just get infinity focus with no movements.

    I'm at work right now but think I have a lens board that you could have for postage or you could pick up if you are coming to the conference. PM me and I'll let you know when I get home.

    Michael
     
  18. Ole

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    A Xenar 300mm f:4.5 is much better for setting fire to things. Or anything else with an 80mm front glass, for that matter...
     
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    Yes, and that $90.00 set-up can produce images that are much better than the most expensive MF cameras running into the thousands of dollars! (She needs to know this!) :D
     
  20. Ole

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    Very true, and the pictures can easily be better than I cold take with a $2000 Carbon LF camera and lenses in every focal length from 90mm to a whopping 500mm. Don't tell mywife, please...
     
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    Gee, I don't know, maybe we should bribe you to say nothing. Nahh, what am I thinking? I can get myself into the same boat at times.

    Rich
     
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  22. Kino

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    through the lens, dustily...

    Got the beastie in today and had to spend about 3 hours cleaning it, but it appears to be a good little unit.

    The set appears to have been stored under a darkroom sink and I wiped a score of oxidized puddles and dried rivulets of what smelled to be Ethol LPD off the outside of the standard Calumet carrying case. Luckily, nothing seems to have entered the case proper...

    I took everything outdoors in the bright sun and removed the contents, scrubbed and vacuumed the case, took the ground glass off, lens board off and extended the bellows to maximum, tilted the camera down and blew out the interior. The bellows appear supple with only a hint here and there of stress fractures on the corners of the bellows.

    Wonder if I should do some PM on it and put something on the cracks? Opinions?

    I then took a cloth and mild detergent and cleaned the bellows while the 170mm Kodak lens cooked in the sun with the shutter cocked open on "T". I didn't see any fungus, but thought it couldn't hurt to hit it with some rays, seeing how it was stored up until now...

    I then took a damp cloth and wiped every square inch of the camera, as it had a thin layer of very fine sand and dander over the entire unit (it was AS IS!). After that, I went through each film holder and had to spend about 20 minutes on each one before sand and dust stopped falling out of the grooves of the dark slides; dirt was everywhere!

    Then, I disassembled the Kodak lens, cleaned the cells, checked the Ilex shutter (sounded fine), wiped it all down and put it together.

    The toshiba light meter works fine after a good cleaning, but it is a wide-field reflective meter, so it goes to a friend who has a Fed 2 but no light meter.

    After about 2 hours of playing with the rise, fall, swings, tilts and shifts, I must say I have my learning cut out for me. The 170mm lens seems a nice little lens, but I was a bit taken back by the limited amount of moves I could make before seeing the edge of the coverage.

    Needless to say, I realized that there will be no, "running and gunning" with this camera.

    I must say, I wish to HELL I had started this as a young man when my vision allowed me to focus my eyes closer than 3 feet without glasses. It sure makes working under the cloth a PIA to have to shift between eye glasses and a loupe, but I guess I'm not telling a lot of you anything.

    Sorry to blather on, I'm sure its all old hat to you all.

    Now, to buy a case, or at least a gross, of creativity...
     
  23. m. dowdall

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    Lens board

    Frank

    I dropped the lens board in the mail today. It is a home made board for a Compound shutter that has a sweet little Protar in it (I sent the board, not the lens). The hole measures 1.557 in. The fit was a little snug on my camera but definitely light tight. I hope you find a use for it.

    No charge for the board or shipping. But if you want to do some thing, a contact print in the mail would be nice.

    Michael
     
  24. Kino

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    Michael,

    Many thanks for sending me the lens board! Very generous of you to say the least...

    I hope I can get a print off tonight; probably will be poor fare in return, but such is life!

    Thanks again.

    Frank