Paper shopping... (Foma vs Kentmere vs Bergger)

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  1. TheFlyingCamera

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    Well, I just got my first packs of Kentmere and Foma to try against my current house standard, Bergger. Initial notes - the Foma that I tried, the Chamois finish triple-weight semi-gloss vc fiber paper is quite nice. It has a real deep cream finish to the paper, and the paper stock has a pronounced tooth to it. The paper base itself is very warm, but the image is somewhat neutral, somewhat like an albumen print. It is a VERY slow paper - with a standard negative, I got a good exposure at 80 seconds at f32 for an 8x10 print.

    The Kentmere, on the other hand, is a bright white baryta base, with a neutral-to-cold tone. It is a much faster paper - 35 seconds at f45 for the same size print from the same negative. The paper base is very smooth and bright, but noticeably thinner than the Foma, and even a bit thinner than the Bergger, but still a double-weight.

    I'll post scans after the prints are dry - they're still washing away at the moment. I think the Foma chamois finish will have a place in my inventory, for limited usages. There will be times when I'll want that albumen-print look without the hassle of actually coating my own. The cold/neutral tone of the Kentmere doesn't do it for me, so I dont think I'll be using it to replace my Bergger.
     
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    Which Kentmere paper? I have an image of a tulip in the gallery made on their Fineprint FBVC Warm which sounds somewhat similar to the Foma paper you mention (but it's faster and only double-weight). Like you with the Foma paper, I can see it having a use for the right kind of image.

    Cheers, Bob.
     
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    I've been using the Kentmere Bromide paper for cold-tone prints. Its about twice as fast as similiar Oriental Seagul paper and seems to have a longer scale printing into zone 8-9 with detail (as with AZO). For warmer-toned prints, you might try Forte Fortezo with Agfa Neutol WA or Ansco 130. I've yet to try their Polywarmtone paper but hear good things about it.
     
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    Scan samples

    Here are the two samples. The Foma is FomaTone MG classic, Chamois 542. The Kentmere is Fineprint VC.
     

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    comparing the two...

    ...I can't decide which I like the most.
    The warm tones of the Foma give the print an atmospheric antique look-but the cooler tones of the other print look good too.
    Personally,I'd be more inclined to use the Foma more for artistic portraits,and possibly shots of old buildings-and the other paper for general use.