Positive Paper... The Poor Man's Polaroid?

Discussion in 'B&W: Film, Paper, Chemistry' started by EASmithV, May 19, 2009.

  1. EASmithV

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    Well, On the magical kingdom of Freestyle I saw the direct positive paper, and it got me to thinking... Has anyone here used this stuff before? Is it ok use an Amber Safelight?
     
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    I don't see how it could be considered a poor man's polaroid, unless your camera can develop it internally or something. If direct positive paper is a polaroid, then so is slide film.

    I do, however, like the idea of images that originate as in-camera originals without intermediates. I remember reading a website about an ULF photographer who shot in-camera Cibachrome positives. I always thought this was very interesting, and wondered if the positive paper could be used in a similar way for black-and-white.
     
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    I think it is a brilliant idea for my situation. My darkroom nearly always has paper developer mixed up and I shoot a lot of still life in 8x10 or 4x5. Thanks for the idea... assuming the positive paper is cheaper than film. I going to check it out.
     
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    I like the idea for ULF and maybe 8x10 inch, for 4x5" it would be too small.
    Ciba's shot at 11x14 inch or bigger can be soooooooo beautifull.........

    Peter
     
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    Actually it looks like it is currently stocked in 8x10,5x7 and 16x20 at least. Do a search for positive paper on Freestyle's site.
     
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    I have used some, it is very contrasty. Not completely safe in OD, as more susceptible that my normal paper to fogging. Have used to make paper negs of negs for making silhouettes. I have wanted to try in camera, but have yet to try. And yes 8x10 is available, or was when I bought.

    TR
     
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    I have used this stuff quite a bit and I really like it. It can indeed be very VERY constrasty but I find if you do a bit of a pre-flash before exposure and if you develope in highly diluted chemistry you can get some great results.
     
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    the paper requires a red safe light as indicated in the instructions. Yes, like most papers is contrasty. The way to tame it is to use a film developer at high dilution. try D 76 1+3 to 1+5, or HC 110 diluted 1+ 11 from syrup. D23, with minimal agitation will also work. Remember, this can be developed under a red safe light so you can watch it and stop development when necessary. I did a whole weekend workshop with a class of 20 using nothing but this paper.
     
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    I've used it, as well.

    I employed Dektol 1:6 as per an earlier thread on the topic...did a lot of experimenting but that ended up working the best for me. Even then it was almost totally black or white. The notion of using diluted film developer is interesting but I can't speak to that or its results.

    Some very interesting images from it, nonetheless. I loaded it into my 4x5 holders and shot with my Shen Hao. It worked well, but keep in mind it's about EI 6. I also had to trim the paper slightly to get it to fit into the Fidelity holders...I have a few examples in my photos here if you're interested.
     
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    i have used this with an amber safelight and had no problems.