Raymond Moore?

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  1. batwister

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    His aesthetic seems to be something I've started to gravitate towards in my own practice - clean, formal without being forced, concentrating on rural fringes. Funny then that I've never had the chance to spend time with his work, books being so rare. His approach and style has almost seeped into the contemporary vernacular without anyone knowing where it came from. I'd LOVE to own one of his books, but it would probably mean a few months off shooting with those prices.

    Suppose it's just another sign of how much Britain values its photography heritage. I don't suppose we'll be seeing any reissues of the books, if Fay Godwin, Paul Hill and John Blakemore are anything to go by.

    It's a crime.

    Interesting blog post on him - http://thoughtsonartandteaching.blogspot.co.uk/2009/12/who-knowes-raymond-moore.html#axzz27Vhs2u00

    Is anyone familiar with his work or own one of his books?
     
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    Yes I admire his work very much. Weeping Ash is a good website and features a few pages on Moore. I own three of his books - the Welsh Arts Council, Murmurs at Every Turn and Every So Often. The print quality in some of them isn't too good which I think was quite normal back then.
    Good documentary on YouTube also called Every So Often interviews Moore and follows him as he photographs.
     
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    Ah, cheers for that video. Didn't even try searching YouTube - since he isn't Andreas Gursky or Gregory Crewdson.
     
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    Ha - know what you mean!
    Your post reminded of the video which I haven't watched for a while - well worth a half hour viewing.
    Moore reminds me of Tony Ray Jones - a British photographer influenced by what was going on in the States and applying it over here.
    Moore doing it with a Northern grit that I like.



     
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    Just watching the video - an early example of that needlessly austere backing music so prevalent in photography documentaries now. :pouty: Interesting though.
    Has Tony Ray Jones had more recognition simply because his work is obviously socially concerned? That is, British critics only understand journalistic work. Because where artistry of the frame is concerned, I see more in Moore's work. 'More in Moore', SIGH.

    I definitely see some of Robert Adams in Moore's pictures too, speaking of American influence.
     
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    Glad to hear other people championing Moore, I find his photography very inspiring. He is dreadfully underated though speaking to photographer's who started out in the 70s he was held very highly by his peers. Am lucky to have a couple of his books though the reproduction as mentioned above is a bit dull. There were a few of his prints exhibited at Tate Britain a couple of years ago and also a folio earlier this year in a show at the V&A. http://www.vam.ac.uk/content/articles/b/British-photography-since-1945

    If you are in London sometime, you can go to the print room at the V&A and they will get you out an archive box with all the work they have of Moore. About 15 prints or so. Have spoken to a curator in the past and there probably would be interest in doing more more with his work but the archive which holds the majority of his work, I believe, is not accessible.
     
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    I bought "Murmurs at every turn" at a remaindered book shop in the 1980's, it's still one of my favourite books.

    A few years later in a shop called "Blinking Images" run by Hayden Pugh in Hay on Wye I was browsing and picked up a book by Paul Hill - signed by the author, I was then told if I like that I might like these others, all signed by the authors. It turned out all these books had been Ray Moore's and given to him by the authors, Hayden had been concerned they might have been stolen but after a quick check confirmed the sale was genuine.

    Unfortunately Hatden gave up his specialist Photography bookshop although he still works around the corner and we remisced about those books earlier this year, Paul Hill had filled me in further over the intervening years.

    Ian
     
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    In my previous post I mentioned the V&A exhibition. Of course I'm very stupid as assumed it would have finished by now. Was there earlier today and the exhibition is on till April 2013. If you are in London before then Batwister, worth going to, and while there, head upstairs to the Print Room to see the rest of the prints. The National Art Library is also in the V&A and they have most publications by Moore and those featuring him which you can get access too though can take up to two hours to get them. Searchable index here; http://catalogue.nal.vam.ac.uk/ipac20/ipac.jsp?profile

    However, best to check Print Room and NAL opening times before going. Library does need a reader's ticket but should be OK to get a day pass with ID.
     
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    This thread and the links have given me a delightful couple of hours of reading and watching. I had never heard of Ray Moore before. Many thanks.
     
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    sorry, but really not my thing. i tried for 40 years for my photographs not to look like that. i miss the excitement of black and white. horses for courses, i guess.
     
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    I understand where you're coming from Ralph. For me his work is inspiring in that it's not bound to photographic convention. I've read of photographers saying they wish they could get back to the mentality they had when they first picked up a camera, purely instinctive rather than a rigid concern with control. I see Moore's work as a pure response to seeing, but with the advantage of a mature aesthetic sensibility - as opposed to the purely subjective eye an amateur has.