RC Paper - Recommendations?

Discussion in 'B&W: Film, Paper, Chemistry' started by Tom Duffy, Feb 5, 2003.

  1. Tom Duffy

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    Sorry to be asking about RC paper in such august circles, but...

    I normally shoot 5x7 tri-x and fuji acros and print 11x14 on Bergger warm tone fiber paper. Although I love this paper, it costs about $2 a sheet and I don't have the wherewithall to use this for my work prints. I can use about $50 worth in a "productive" week.

    I'd like to start using RC paper for proofs, initial evaluation, and work prints and switch to the Bergger only if the negative merits it.

    Can anyone suggest an RC paper and finish, e.g., satin, glossy, etc. suitable for my purpose?

    Thanks!
    Tom
     
  2. Eric Rose

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    I am sure we are going to get into the Ford vs Chevy thing here, but for what it's worth I really enjoy using Agfa RC MG paper. I find the blacks to my liking and the tonal range suits my style. I have been using it for about 5 years after getting disappointed with Ilford products (RC that is). I really loved the "mood" of the Ilford fiber papers that didn't seem to come across in the RC stuff. Not having to use fiber print dryers, curling prints etc was enough of an advantage for me to go to RC.

    Now that I am doing mainly LF I might give the fiber base papers another go, although I love the split printing in MG. Pardon my ignorance but do they have MG in fiber papers these days?

    IN any event here is the link to the data sheet for the Agfa product. I also use the Agfa chemistry.

    http://www.agfa.com/photo/products/pdf/P-SW51-E2.pdf
     
  3. Donald Miller

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    Yes, the fiber paper market is pretty heavily weighted with variable contrast materials. I use Oriental Seagull VC and like it very well. Others have said that the Forte variable contrast fiber paper is very good. Bruce Burnbaum, John Sexton, among others use that paper. Howard Bond used to use Ilford Multigrade fiber, I am not sure that is what he still uses.
     
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    I'd rather eat worms than drive a Chevy... oh yeah, try Forte Polywarmtone RC.
     
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    Agfa but it seems hard to find for those in the US so order from Canada and pay about 50% less then B&H's prices for RC paper.
     
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    I've been using Ilford Multigrade IV - Portfolio (or whatever the heck it's called - I rarely look at the packages anymore) for some time now. I *love* the "Pearl" surface.

    There has been a sort of "mini shortage" of the stuff here in the Boston area ... apparently a few others agree with me.

    One thing I have noticed about the Ilford Papers - there seems to be a very good uniformity of grades (at least the different emulsion layers that make up the grades) and exposure speeds between lots and sizes ... far more uniformity than I've seen with other papers.

    So ... there you go ... *I* like Ilford ... and I drive a Ford Taurus.
     
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  8. David A. Goldfarb

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    For prints that I intend to give away unmounted, I like Ilford MGIV RC Portfolio. It's heavy stock with an attractive surface.

    For proof sheets I use Ilford MGIV RC Glossy, because it's cheap and functional, and I like a glossy paper for proof sheets.
     
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    Thanks everyone. I guess I will give Ilford another go.
     
  10. Donald Miller

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    I absolutely gave up on RC paper years ago. I figure that it is better for me to work with a material that I can learn to know very well and so all of my printing is done on Oriental Seagull VCFB, with the exception of my contact prints on Azo.
     
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    I agree that AGFA MCP is the best RC paper on the market today. But Ilford MG IV is very close to it. IMO it is essential to use an infrared RC dryer to get the most out of these papers. I get a DMax of 2,2 logD from both MCP and MG IV, but the whites are slightly more pleasing on MCP. Of course, Dmax and general appearence depend on the developer used. My standard one is Amaloco AM 6006.
     
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    Try Arista from Freestyle Camera; it's repackaged Ilford at a lower price. The pearl surface is pleasant; it's not real FB, but it's not bad, and should suit you.
    Steven
     
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    hello, i use for all my proofsprints classic arts polywarmtone rc paper, it is rebadged forte paper, cheap and very BEAUTIFULL, foto impex in berlin sells it,
    regards jelke
     
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    If you like glossy RC paper, check out seagull. I got a box a while back and it was a great paper.
     
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    Another vote for Agfa.
     
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    Yeah, it's definitely Agfa and Amaloco for me
     
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    For proofing go with the Arista or Adorama if they still offer it. If you want to produce finished prints with neutral to a colder tone, Kodak Polymax RC in Agfa Neutol Plus and selenium 1-9 for 2 minutes. If the Agfa RC is close to the fiber version I would highly recommend it for final prints also.
     
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    If your final prints are on Berger warm tone fibre paper I would suggest you try Ilford Warmtone RC.
     
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    Kodak's RC paper is pretty good. For me it is available and cheap. I had some Agfa stuff that was very aged and once burned twice shy. Around here off the shelf Forte and Agfa and Ilford and Kodak. I buy Oriental FB when I am in LA but AFAIK there ain't no Orential paper here in the Metromess.

    lee\c