Real Matte paper

Discussion in 'B&W: Film, Paper, Chemistry' started by Robert Vigurs, Nov 17, 2011.

  1. Robert Vigurs

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    I am finishing up a box of Adorama matte paper I bought a few years back. Been kept cool, and is still sensitive. I like flat, matte paper. It can be hard to get a good spectrum of grey with the right contrast, but when I get it, the result is really wonderful. I have heard that the new Adorama matte, is not true flat matte paper. I have heard that the Ilford is. Have any of you other Matte paper users found a brand that you like. Any input appreciated. Thanks, Robert
     
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    I believe there really aren't too many matte papers left. There is Ilford MGIV matte, Fomabrom matte which says it is a hair warm and then Slavich graded (which seems to not be imported to the US anymore) and last Varycon matte. Not many choices, I use Ilford and love it though I have not tried the others....

    Note I presume you are not interested in warm tone mattes - right? Otherwise there are lots more out there, plus art 300 but that prints a little warm...you want dead deep black and white cold matte or you interested in getting a little warm?
     
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    The most matte paper I know of is Ilford MGFB

    All the other matte papers have some sheen to them - making them semi-matte in reality

    The semi-matte surfaces have a beauty of their own but if you are after a dead matte finish then the Ilford paper is your best bet

    However, if you want to try a very nice semi matte paper - Adox Fine Print Vario Classic with a Matt finish

    Martin
     
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    Thanks for the input guys.I will probably go ahead and buy some Ilford, as I really do like the true matte finish. The old Adorama has been great, however, it is somewhat of a warm tone. I like to selenium tone my final prints, as this affords the effect I prefer. Cheers
     
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    Have a look at the Fomabrom 112, that very matt.
     
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    Martin - wow in the States we don't have avail the Adox Matte FB that you mention, like Robert I have always wondered about other mattes, I am glad to hear you report that the Adox is not as matte as Ilford. I am happy because that means for me that I don't have to evaluate another paper and can stick with MGIV matte forever! Woo hoo, I do love it anyway and am glad to hear they are as good (ie cold, black and matte) as it gets!

    Robert I have been thrilled w Ilford MGIV matte and it gets so amazing when toned (gold or selenium).
     
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    SMBooth - does Forma have a hint of warmness to it? I once considered it but saw this statement in their spec sheet:

    "In general
    FOMABROM is an universal black-and-white photographic paper on a baryta paper base. It is manufactured using silver chlorobromide emulsion that gives a neutral-to- medium warm tone to the resulting silver image. The paper features a very rich halftone scale ranging from shining whites to deep blacks. Its high speed makes it possible using large lens diaphragms values even when making big size enlargements."

    Per
    http://www.digitaltruth.com/products/foma_tech/Fomabrom.pdf
     
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    Yes, ever so slightly, has a creamish base too.
     
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    Arista EDU Ultra is a pretty good choice for a really matte paper too. Might be the same as Foma mentioned above as it`s a little creamy too.
     
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    Ilford is Matte. Haven't used others but the Ilford it just right.
     
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    The adox FB matt is also very matt. I tried the ilford matt too, but could not find a big difference between these 2. (only the price!).