Rodinal (!!)

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  1. brofkand

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    After using D-76 exclusively for about a year and a half, I decided to try some Rodinal.

    I have my Mamiya m645 1000s here that I've been meaning to use before my return period with KEH expires to be certain all is in order, and I decided to develop the Arista EDU Ultra 400 in Rodinal instead of D-76. I was nervous since this was my first time with the new camera AND a new developer, but I wanted to see what was up.

    Those negatives are perhaps the most beautiful I've ever produced. I looked at them on my light table with an 8x loupe, and they are absolutely stunning. They're sharp, reasonably contrasty, and dense (perfect for an easy print session). Every other time I'd used EDU Ultra 400 I've gotten poor results, be it 35mm or 120.

    I don't know if it's the Mamiya or the Rodinal, but those negatives are wonderful. I can't wait until this weekend so I can print them.
     
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    I want to try the rodinal as well. Show the pictures. I´m curious to see them
     
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    Not only does it produce stunning results, but it is also one of the most economical developers to use.
     
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    What are you rating the Arista EDU Ultra at? From my experience, it has a true speed of just about 200 in most developers.

    Anyway, about Rodinal. It's good stuff, cheap and very versatile. Rodinal is surprisingly good at pushing when used correctly. If you ever get a chance, try stand developing TRI-X rated at 2400. Of course, slower films like Pan-F produce astounding resolution with Rodinal. Overall, it's a really nice developer to have around.
     
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    I use rodinal almost exclusively. Only not good results with adox cms 20, all other films - ok.
     
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    It's amazing stuff, and the keeping properties are incredible - I've still got a glass 1977 bottle of it that I occasionally check, and it's still going strong. Adding sodium sulphite to round off the graininess is one way of matching it to faster films, but what about this, a mix of Xtol & Rodinal from Sam Elkind?

    Xtol = 100 mL
    Water = 400 mL
    Rodinal = 4 to 5 mL

    http://unblinkingeye.com/Articles/Rodinal/rodinal.html
     
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    Martin, have you tried that mixture?

    I've started to use Rodinal also just recently for certain things - I found that link when I was searching for info an wondered about it.
    I normally use Xtol. I was thinking to mix could either be the best of both worlds, or neither one thing nor the other..
    I know these things are very subjective, but interested to hear about what anyone thinks of it...
     
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    J.W.Shaw - HYDROQUINONE p-AMINOPHENOL DEVELOPER

    Not forgetting another Rodinal concoction

    J.W.Shaw - HYDROQUINONE p-AMINOPHENOL DEVELOPER

    Warm Toned Print developer. (Using Rodinal)

    Solution A

    Hydroquinone 16.7 g
    Sodium Sulphite 91 g
    Citric Acid 6.25 g
    Potassium Bromide 3.12 g
    Water to 1 litre

    Solution B

    Sodium Hydroxide 16.7 g
    Water to 1 litre

    Solution C Potassium Bromide Solution 10% (!00 g/litre)


    To Use:
    24 ml Soln A
    24 ml Soln B
    1 ml Rodinal (Agfa)
    12 ml Soln C
    100 ml Water

    Originally formulated for lantern slides this developer works well with warm tone papers.

    Ian
     
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    Rodinal is beautiful, forgiving, and inexpensive. What's not to love?
     
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    It'll be a few days. I don't have a neg scanner so I'll have to print the negatives, and it isn't a small affair to set up everything.

    Rodinal is awesome. Definitely try it. What developer do you use most often now?
     
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    I have used the Rodinal/XTol combination and like it a lot. I stumbled upon it in the work of Robert Vincent (_Honus_ on flickr & RFF), and he got it from an APUG thread.

    One of the beautiful things about Rodinal, IMO, is that for a given concentration most films have the same development time. I've found this the case for 1:100, at least. At that dilution, TX400, TMY2, TMX, APX 100 and FP-4+ all do well @ 20 min/20C. (YMMV, test for individual circumstances, offer not valid in all countries, yadda, yadda.) This makes processing a whole backlog of film a lot easier. :D
     
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    I'd have to agree, but it's also pretty much the same with Pyrocat HD

    Ian
     
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    for me also.
    my films and pyrocat HD are also the same time developed.
    fp4+ / adox chs 100 / fuji acros (all 4x5")
     
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    Rodinal Is a...

    ...high acutance developer meaning is resolves fine tonalities well. I love the stuff but it's been years since I've done any wet process B&W work.
     
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    Ian & Willie: Good to know. I've been giving Pyrocat HD some thought recently, especially for LF work. It's just hard for me to balance more than a couple of developers. I'm so used to Rodinal, and I've been doing a bit of work with XTol on its own. Late this year I'll likely be getting some Harvey's 777 for a small tank line. Too many developers, too little time.
     
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    I may start B&W developing and after knowing that 1l of D76/ID11 may develop just a few films, I'm more interested in rodinal. Seems like a 500ml bottle may be able to develop a good quantity of films; 30, 60?
    How good are it's keeping properties after opening the bottle? I've read about a year, and some say even decades!
     
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    Number of films depends on dilution. Typically 1:25, 1:50, or 1:100. Once opened it will last longer than you might ever imagine. There are tales of many decades, just strain out the chunky crystals that form.

    At something like $16 a bottle it's a small investment.
     
  18. Ian Grant

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    Fomapan films are the only exception, I should have added that earlier, they require about 2/3rds the dev time of other films or end up very contrasty.

    Ian
     
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    Go for it Prest. At 1+50 and assuming that 300ml of solution is all you need (at least for my Jobo tank) it will process 80+ films (6ml per 135 film). It doesn't cost much and it can be stored for a long time after it's opened. If you ever get bored, just put it at the shelf and you can use it again whenever you want. FYI, it cost me 14,5€ about a year and a half ago. Try it with APX100. Brilliant stuff.