RodinalX ?

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  1. TPPhotog

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    Hi Everyone,

    I've heard that some people are using a combination of Rodinal and Xtol mixed for developing. Have I got the info correct and has anyone tried this soup?

    Kind regards Tony
     
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    Hello Tony,
    I have never tested this cocktail but I once read an interesting article about it on www.unblinkingeye.com
    Regards
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    Not Just Xtol....

    Tony,just thought I would add something else for you to think about. This weekend I shot some FP4+ 4x5 and developed it in a soup that was Pyrocat-HD with Rodinal - 1+1+100+.5 of Rodinal, for 30 min. stand developed.

    Now, I based the time on the 1:100 dil of Rodinal I use most of the time, and the negative is quite dense (meaning that it is a very dark negative, while does have a great deal of detail, the overall negative looks dense - as have stated before, don't know what a true dense negative looks like, just know this one is not thin). :smile: Also, as I suspected, the stain was not as pronounced. Have not printed the negative yet, but will let you know how it looks.

    Seems like the dilutions I have seen for RodinalX was for standard dilution of Xtol + something like 2 ml of Rodinal.

    Good luck and let us know how it works out.
     
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    I'm going to try 100ml xtol + 400ml water + 2 ml rodinal with some tri-x.

    I'll let you know.
     
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    Thanks for the info everyone I'll give it a spin. This has got me thinking that as I have some fluffy grain DD-X stocked up I might try a DD-X / Rodinal combo, now see what you've got me into LOL :wink:
     
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    Have you asked P.Gainer if he has a perverted DDX formula?

    I guess some ascorbate into your DDX may help, as P.Gainer says it does to HC110 (haven't tested that yet)
     
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    Not thought of that but if anyone has :smile: Hopefully he will fall over this thread as I don't like pestering people (well not directly LOL).
     
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    Anybody who wnts to pester me directly can do so at pgainer@rtol.net. I am retired and mostly just sit around thinking up new ways to get into mischief.

    I first tried mixing HC110 and sodium ascorbate in water solution. I liked the results for grain and gradation, but I had to mix the HC110 with water first and then add the ascorbate. After I found out about glycols as solvents and TEA as both solvent and activator, I concocted a new concentrate of TEA, ascorbic acid and HC110 that will have the keeping qualities of HC110 and be simpler to mix. Without realizing it at the time, I had something analogous to Ilfotec HC. For all I know, they got the idea from my previous perversion that was published in Photo Techniques.
     
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    LOL Thank you kindly I'll remember that, we can't have you getting into mischief :smile:

    I'll give the DD-X / Rodinal brew a try first and see what comes out of the tank.