rolleiflex hasselblad for head shoulder portrait

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  1. danzyc

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    hello friends! i have one question to ask...i d like to make with my rollei a very tight head shoulder portrait...i have rolleinar but deform a lot a women's face,
    mutar is the final solution?

    i f i bought an hasselblad with 150mm +proxar? i d like to make a fashionbeauty portrait with no deformation...

    thanks
     
  2. Venchka

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    150mm + extension tube would be my choice. Which tube? No clue. I'll wait for the answer.
     
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    21 mm.
     
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    I often used a 16mm tube with my 150/2.8. Then I picked up a 110/2 and have hardly touched the 150. The 110 focuses down to .8 meter, whereas the 150 stops at 1.4 meters.
     
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    For tight head-shots, i like the 250 mm with 32 mm tube best.
     
  8. Rolleiflexible

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    Or a Tele Rolleiflex.
     
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    If one of those, than better make it the very latest version.
    The older ones have a minimum focussing distance of over 2.5 m, which combined with the 135 mm lens produces a minimum field of view of about 1 meter square.
    Tight head shoulder portraits only with cropping.

    The latest version has a minimum focusing distance of 1.5 m, and a minimum field of view of about 0.5 m. Good.
    But at 1.5 m... wil work. But i'd rather be a bit further away still, with a longer lens.
     
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    Hey, QG, I must've missed that memo.
    Here are a few tight headshots from my
    old Tele Rolleiflexes, full-frame.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/2599910232/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/3869818228/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/3092817708/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/3076791496/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/2941665274/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/2956232621/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/2886528844/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/2903284403/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/2920062199/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/2847683367/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/2858707212/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/2674496798/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/2707800962/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/2767334582/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/3653177741/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/2497352929/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/2567075021/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/2591542119/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/2439344297/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/2331281246/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/2260743696/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/723756919/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/734846322/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/743583441/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/584920553/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/467160282/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/405712112/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/3444165912/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/3314260470/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/3190618139/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/3201807560/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/3213027846/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/2998662104/

    ... and so on.

    They have these things called Rolleinars.

    Next time I'll be sure to use right model.
     
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    rolleiflexes great portrait.....i i should apply a mutar 1.5 on my 75 mm planar?? ...rolleinar deform the femine beauty.....it doesn t work sorry...


    thanks
     
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    I would recommend buying a system camera like Hasselblad+150mm lens instead. I can also recommend Rolleiflex SL66 but it will not be as suitable for flash work as the Hassy will be, unless you buy the special lenses with leaf shutter, which are only two (80+150mm). Mamiya should also be a good try, as is the Rollei 600* series, if you have nothing against batteries.
    The Mutar is not easy to find and overpriced IMHO. It is also recommend to use it with f5,6 or smaller to get acceptable image quality. Parallax compensation does only work for objects farther away than 4m and you have to compensate exposure for 1/2 f-stop.
    Best Regards, Benjamin
     
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    So many links that go nowhere, while one that would go nowhere would have sufficed. :wink:
    (Your Flicker portfolio appears no to be public)

    You may like to use close-up lenses, and a short lens for 'tight' portraits.
    I don't like either; close-up lenses (even) less than a too short lens. Pay for a great lens, and then put those crappy lenses in front of them? Makes no sense to me.
     
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    I rarely say something like this but
    you really don't have a clue what
    you're talking about on this one.

    There is nothing "crappy" about a
    Rolleinar. I have shot hundreds of
    close headshots with a Tele Rollei
    and a combination of Rolleinars. I
    defy you to improve on the results
    with any camera or lens.

    [​IMG]
     
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    No: The Mutars do degrade image quality
    -- at least the 0.7x Mutar I have degrades
    the quality of what I get out of my 3.5E.
    If you want to shoot tight, and you do not
    like the perspective of the 75mm lens, and
    you want to shoot with a Rolleiflex, you
    will want a Tele Rolleiflex.
     
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    Those links all work for me.

    People. Listen to Sanders. He knows what he's talking about.

    I love Rolleiflexes, but you can pick up a user 500C/M body, back and 150 for less than a Tele-Rolleiflex. Plus it gives the flexibility of different focal lengths and multiple backs.

    I found I wasn't using the 2 Rolleiflexes I had after I bought a Hasselblad outfit. Just sold them about a month ago.
     
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    Mr. McNew, I might need your advice about the Rolleinars shortly. If I'm not mistaken, I'm going to be given a tele-Rolleiflex as a gift and it's a sure thing that I'd like to use it at portrait distances.
     
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    Hey Sanders... that was one of my favorite portraits of yours. Thanks for re-posting it.

    gene
     
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    I remember seeing a video of Richard Avedon doing heads and shoulders portraits with a Rollei. He had the camera on a tripod, focussed, then engaged the subject in conversation and such while shooting. From what I remember, it looked like a Rollei 75/80mm with Rolleinar -- or it could have been a Telerolleiflex.

    I think Mr. Avedon knew how to take portraits.
     
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    Nice photograph... a picture is worth a thousand posts :wink:
     
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    I believe that "crappy" was referring to close up filters that are available for many lenses and cameras. These close up filters are no match for the Zeiss lenses that Rollei and Hasselblad owners might put the close up filters on. [I think that something was lost in the translation].

    Steve
     
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    I think that it was well understood, and that Rolleiflexible and i disagree quite a lot about how good these close-up lenses are.
     
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    Just an aside: all i get is "You must be signed in to see this content."
    I have no Yahoo/Flickr account, so can't sign in.
     
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    Don't forget a Mamiya RZ with 110/2.8. The bellows focusing gets you in amazingly close, if your subject doesn't mind and the results are amazing...just thought I'd throw that out there since the OP was thinking about a different camera anyway.
     
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    Strange I have no Yahoo or Flickr account but I can see them...

    Anyhow I have to agree with Sanders, those close up Rolleinars are way better than they would at first seem- I use them often. They are in no way 'crappy' and certainly fall in the precision instrument category.
    Possibly you are confusing them with cheap converters?
    I have no problem with them 'distorting' faces so can't really advise.
    YMMV