"Silver Platinum" prints

Discussion in 'Alternative Processes' started by TheFlyingCamera, Jan 19, 2011.

  1. TheFlyingCamera

    TheFlyingCamera Membership Council Council

    Messages:
    9,442
    Joined:
    May 24, 2005
    Location:
    Washington DC
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    I was up at the Stieglitz, Steichen and Strand show in New York this past weekend. I saw a number of prints on the wall, most specifically by Stieglitz, labeled "Silver-Platinum Print". I've never heard of this before- anyone have any idea what it could be?
     
  2. Ian Grant

    Ian Grant Subscriber

    Messages:
    18,035
    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2004
    Location:
    West Midland
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    It's similar to Gold toning, you can use Platinum or Palladium, it was once common for early printing processes. I've a few formulae in early British Journal (Photographic) Almanacs and other books from the late 19th C.

    Ian
     
  3. payral

    payral Member

    Messages:
    382
    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2004
    Location:
    France
    Shooter:
    8x10 Format
    Satista. It' s a developing out technic where you use very little salt (palladium or platinum) and your developer is some Ag Nitrate mixed with glycerin.
    Some prints on my website
     
  4. Ian Grant

    Ian Grant Subscriber

    Messages:
    18,035
    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2004
    Location:
    West Midland
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    POP,Salt prints, Kalitypes, Albumen prints etc were all treated with Platinum or Palladium as well, They are also SilverPlatinum or Silver Palladium prints.

    It was a very common technique.

    Ian
     
  5. TheFlyingCamera

    TheFlyingCamera Membership Council Council

    Messages:
    9,442
    Joined:
    May 24, 2005
    Location:
    Washington DC
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    Well, that makes sense then, but the terminology is still a bit misleading - it would make more sense (if the real answer was known) to say "Platinum-toned POP silver gelatin" or whatever. My guess from looking at the prints on display then would be that they were platinum-toned Kallitypes as I really couldn't tell the difference between them and the straight platinum prints on display.
     
  6. Ian Grant

    Ian Grant Subscriber

    Messages:
    18,035
    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2004
    Location:
    West Midland
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    A Platinum toned Kallitype will have very similar tonality & archival properties to a Platinum print, I thing Loris Medici goes down this route for some of his images.

    Economically it's far cheaper to go down this route as far less Platinum salts are used.

    I did a quick check of an 1890's BJP Almanac and there were a lot of Platinum toners listed, some by paper manufacturers, also a few companies were offering platinum prints by enlargement, which I'd guess would actually be fully toned bromide prints.

    Ian
     
  7. Loris Medici

    Loris Medici Member

    Messages:
    653
    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2005
    Location:
    Istanbul, Tu
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    Well, I would agree with Philippe (a very competent Satista printer) that "Silver Platinum" sounds more like another term for "Satista" process, to my ears. (EDIT: In the context of Steiglitz prints that is...) See this article (by Marek Matusz) for further info.

    Regards,
    Loris.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 22, 2011