Soldier's camera and photos found in WWII foxhole

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  1. oneANT

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    The Battle of the Bulge is known as one of the most deadly and influential battles of WWII. Taking place over the course of five weeks, this surprise attack by the Germans caught allied forces off-guard, causing massive casualties, especially among U.S. Troops.

    Among the 89,000 casualties was a soldier named Louis J. Archambeau, a Chicago native who left behind an interesting surprise in a foxhole he had been taking refuge in during the cold weather and rough artillery fire.


    ..amazing

    http://petapixel.com/2014/07/01/soldiers-camera-photos-battle-bulge-found-foxhole-70-years-later/
     
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    Wow. I wonder how they developed 69 year-old film. D-76 with stand development?
     
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    The camera and film was actually found a few years ago, as the photos appeared in a book concerning the 80th ID back in 2008...so make that 64 years ago..

    It remains a pretty darn cool recovery though.


    As to stating the Battle of the Bulge had no influence at all, I do have to disagree with that somewhat. It pretty much swallowed up Germany's reserves on the western front. The overal defense of the Reich could've lasted way longer if they hadn't wasted their resources on this gambit.
     
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    thanks for sharing
     
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    Thank you for posting the thread.
     
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    Interesting piece of history!

    Jeff
     
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    In the British military taking photographs in combat areas and keeping diaries by serving soldiers is strictly forbidden.
     
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    I didn't read what camera or film was found or how they processed it

    Was that mentioned anywhere?

    [Moderator's note: Off topic content deleted.]
     
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    On the technical side, it would be interesting to know the details of how they recovered the film. I thought it was amazing no one else discovered these items after all these years. I have always pictured this part of Europe as having a high density population with hardly no area of woods as being unexplored. Quite amazing.
     
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    Bill, here is a photo of the camera in question being recovered from the foxhole. To me it looks like a Zeiss Ikon Nettar (or a VERY similar 6x9 camera).

    [​IMG]
     
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    Thanks Mr_Flibble !
     
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    Ahem

    The whole article was a fraud written to pull at people's heartstrings. :sad:
     
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    It's amazing that the camera and more so the film survived just buried in debris and exposed to the elements for all that time.
    Kudos to the people who found it and took the time and effort to conserve what was there. The images could have so easily been lost for the rest of time.
     
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    where are you quoting from Mr. Flibble ?

    If the story is indeed fraudulent, or at the very least if the photographs are misattributed, it seems a shame to perpetuate it here.
     
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    If it is a fraud, prove it! What are you basing your statement on? What you had for breakfast?
     
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    Ok, folks, please keep it to the photographic issue at hand and take the debate about the war to a WWII forum, of which I am sure there are many.
     
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    All images are definitely from the Signal Corps archives, not from a recently recovered camera, some appeared in print in a book concerning the 80th Infantry Division back in 2008. (see my complete quote).

    Same thing happened with an article by the ARC a few weeks ago. Where they showed a photo of 'ARC ladies jumping off a landing craft in Normandy 1944".....except that it was Southern France in January 1945...
     
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    What is ARC ?
     
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    I also see that the site that the petapixel article linked to has removed the pages about the find (or "find")
     
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    Most of the films I get to salvage from cameras stored on normal temperate and dry UK houses don't unwind. So all I can develope is the portion of film in the camera gate.

    And it is the norm with a folder that you wind on after exposure... so not had many image recoveries.

    Indeed if you drop the camera into salt or fresh water get the film out of camera immediately if it is your camera.
     
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    Mr Fibble it turns out you were right

    They were indeed a hoax according to this ....



    http://petapixel.com/2014/07/07/70-year-old-foxhole-photos-turn-out-to-be-a-hoax/
     
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    A shame really.

    Best luck I had with found film in a Box Brownie was from the 1950s with some early Ilford film. Two images clearly showed an elderly couple in their garden.
    Another was a more recent film in an Agfa Clack showing someone's holiday snaps from Italy.

    Gene M from westfordcomp has a lot of experience developing found film:
    http://westfordcomp.com/updated/found.htm
    At some point he had two pages of results from some rolls of an Argus C3 taken by a GI who was stationed in Italy towards the end of the war.