Steinheil Antiplanet No 17273

Discussion in 'Large Format Cameras and Accessories' started by Jersey Vic, Sep 5, 2006.

  1. Jersey Vic

    Jersey Vic Member

    Messages:
    3,924
    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2004
    Location:
    Columbia Cou
    Shooter:
    Holga
    Not long ago I bought an ancient 8x10 tropical folding camera that came with an interesting lens that's engraved "Steinheil in Munchen No 17273" on the barrel and "Gruppen Antiplanet 64mm" on the flange. The glass has approx a 2" diameter and is 2" inches long and came with an extension tube and a waterhouse stop. I'd appreciate any information anyone has or knows of regarding these lenses.
    Thanks
    Victor
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 5, 2006
  2. Ole

    Ole Moderator Staff Member Moderator

    Messages:
    9,281
    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2002
    Location:
    Bergen, Norw
    Shooter:
    Large Format
  3. Jersey Vic

    Jersey Vic Member

    Messages:
    3,924
    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2004
    Location:
    Columbia Cou
    Shooter:
    Holga
    Thanks Ole; I have seen this and am looking for any additional information anyone might have i.e.- any user experiences -or examples- anyone might have with this or similar lenses, overall impressions, more well known comparable lenses, etc.

    Thanks in advance
    Victor
     
  4. Ole

    Ole Moderator Staff Member Moderator

    Messages:
    9,281
    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2002
    Location:
    Bergen, Norw
    Shooter:
    Large Format
    Victor,

    To the best of my knowledge there are no "more well known comparable lenses", not even any "less known similar lenses". Steinheil was alone in making the Gruppen-Antiplanet, and noone else has ever made one. It's about as unique as the Goerz Hypergon, and a lot less collectible...

    To tell you the truth I've been trying to get hold of one for quite a while, just to see what it's like. I've ended up with an amazing assortment of just about everything else instead!
     
  5. Dave Wooten

    Dave Wooten Subscriber

    Messages:
    2,720
    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2004
    Location:
    Vegas/myster
    Shooter:
    ULarge Format

    Ole I have an 121 mm 6.8 Steinheil orthostigmat (whatever that designates) mounted on an ancient 5 x 7 .
     
  6. Ole

    Ole Moderator Staff Member Moderator

    Messages:
    9,281
    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2002
    Location:
    Bergen, Norw
    Shooter:
    Large Format
    The Orthostigmat is an entirely different beast. It's a very decent anastigmat, which is what Steinheil tried to make with the Antiplanet. The Orthostigmat didn't appar until Zeiss' original Anastigmat patent had expired...

    My 1910 book lists "the best known lenses currently in the market", including a lot of Aplanats and similar. The Antiplanet is not mentioned, the Orthostigmat is. As are the Triplar and Unofocal, also by Steinheil.
     
  7. Photo Engineer

    Photo Engineer Subscriber

    Messages:
    25,894
    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2005
    Location:
    Rochester, NY
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    Antiplanet?

    Egad it sounds like something that escaped from Area 51. It must be a lens from the planetbuster raygun they found with the alien ship.

    PE
     
  8. Dave Wooten

    Dave Wooten Subscriber

    Messages:
    2,720
    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2004
    Location:
    Vegas/myster
    Shooter:
    ULarge Format
    Just reviewing some ols posts...I should have posted 210 cm 6.8